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We need more citizens like him ! Especially here in Az where Apathy Abounds !

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Some on these blogs have criticized the motor bike rider, Eric Martinez's actions.  They didn't approve of the way Eric tried to save his wife, Christine's life while R.E.EckII's truck was moving.

Here is is a fascinating example of the bravery that military types like Eric Martinez can do.  It happened in a small town in South Dakota:  http://www.keloland.com/NewsDetail6162.cfm?Id=100865

Thomas, the hero in this video (attached to news article) "has just a month to settle the incident with his insurance before he deploys for Afghanistan. He knows law enforcement doesn't suggest what he did, but with firefighter and Army training, he felt he was in just the right place to lend a hand. And he hopes karma will return the favor some day..."

This military man called Thomas helped apprehend someone who had a warrant out for him and who is "also now facing his fourth DWI, eluding police, driving with a revoked license and possession of marijuana and drug paraphernalia charges..."

Like I've said before, it's good that it was Eric rather than an elderly person with much slower reflexes who would have had to deal with R.E.EckII and Juni age 21 on that fateful morning Friday, October 2nd, 2009. 

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steve flynn wrote: Rush Limbaugh was addicted to the same drug and he has always said that

addicts need to be imprisoned if they use or sell street drugs.  There is a double

standard with using prescription drugs and pot, heroin, cocaine etc. which

is BS.  The drug in question is actually called Hillbilly Heroin.   I

call it that not to deride southerners (far from it), but to show how similar it is

to the real thing.


Doctors need to be held accountable for handing out prescriptions like candy. I myself have turned down medications that doctors were going to prescribe without a second thought ..

Christa Rizzi

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ShannonFlynn wrote: Eric Martinez wrote: four level spinal fusion interbody lumbar tittanium screws and rods and two bone cages .

exrays ,mris,medication ,physical theropy ,whelchair rental, ect ect sound cheap to you ....

how much did that helicopter ride cost the taxpayers for a very minor abrasion to the face?

he did not go directly to the hospital as they papper says he went to the fire department first WHY?   if he was in such dire need of medical attention why go to the fire station first?

 

Please explain......

The fire station to what, sober him up prior to the Emergency Department?

Sounds like great medical INTERVENTION...  ;);)

EF

 


 

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MikeW wrote: ANY addiction over powers the person, it becomes the only thing in life. Street drugs, prescriptions, cigarettes, booze all are an SOB to quit, once they negate common sense.
 

Mike could not have said it better myself.

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Eric Martinez wrote: four level spinal fusion interbody lumbar tittanium screws and rods and two bone cages .

exrays ,mris,medication ,physical theropy ,whelchair rental, ect ect sound cheap to you ....

how much did that helicopter ride cost the taxpayers for a very minor abrasion to the face?

he did not go directly to the hospital as they papper says he went to the fire department first WHY?   if he was in such dire need of medical attention why go to the fire station first?

 

Please explain......

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ANY addiction over powers the person, it becomes the only thing in life. Street drugs, prescriptions, cigarettes, booze all are an SOB to quit, once they negate common sense.

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Rush Limbaugh was addicted to the same drug and he has always said that

addicts need to be imprisoned if they use or sell street drugs.  There is a double

standard with using prescription drugs and pot, heroin, cocaine etc. which

is BS.  The drug in question is actually called Hillbilly Heroin.   I

call it that not to deride southerners (far from it), but to show how similar it is

to the real thing.

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Agreed , but some also need to hit 'rock bottom' before they finally realize that they need help.

So if the tox. report comes back positive , and Martinez proves his case and wins .....maybe , just maybe that will be the wake up call needed if Eck is abusing his prescription medication. 

 

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Then those people need prayer, support and encouragement not a kick in the teeth when they're down ..

Christa Rizzi

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crista so do i , the problem is that some people with adiction havent!

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Eric Martinez wrote: let me guess you both stay in the same halk way house for oxycotin addiction

at

1000 addiction way

sissyville ,arizona

90201 

I commend anyone with the courage to

A. admit they have a problem with addiction of any kind .. and

B.  follow through with treatment including checking themselves into a half way house ..

:X

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four level spinal fusion interbody lumbar tittanium screws and rods and two bone cages .

exrays ,mris,medication ,physical theropy ,whelchair rental, ect ect sound cheap to you ....

how much did that helicopter ride cost the taxpayers for a very minor abrasion to the face?

he did not go directly to the hospital as they papper says he went to the fire department first WHY?   if he was in such dire need of medical attention why go to the fire station first?

 

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My goodness, what a load of crap. I'm sorry. I guess I havent been doing much reading as of late. I hope that Mr. Re. knows what to do. If not this city is in a whole lot of h-ll. $700,000. My goodness. My tax dollars are a working.

Had 2 add my 2 cents.  Nothing a thing personal Mr. Re please know that.

 

Shannon F.

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WatchingU2 wrote: nicotaijulo wrote: I have a prescription for Oxycodone HCL 5 MG ( I don't take it because it makes me itch like crazy). The prescribed dosage : Take 1 to 2 tablets by mouth 3 times a day as needed for pain.

Warning label 1 : May cause drowsiness . Alcohol may intensify effect. Use care when operating machines.

Warning label 2 : May cause dizziness.

Warning label 3 : Taking more than recommended may cause breathing problems. 

 I am no lawyer, but it seems that if Eck is taking more than the recommended dosage and driving then he is being negligent.

Everyone has a different reaction to prescription drugs but you say he may have had anywhere from 80mg to 320mg in his system ? ! :shock: I am pretty sure that I would be on the floor after 20mg !!!

Any idea yet of what dosage he is prescribed to take ? 

I agree. That is an extreme amount. I don't think he would be alive if that were true

Immunity possibly - after many years???

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let me guess you both stay in the same halk way house for oxycotin addiction

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1000 addiction way

sissyville ,arizona

90201


still awaiting this damming proof you have ! and when you and punish HER and juni get done hanging out in the closet ........

and since im a thug tell me to my face ! all you have to say !

 

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Watchingu2, if you would like to send the thug a postcard, here's his address.

Biker Thug
1234 Fullofmyself Lane
Talkscrap, Arizona

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if his testimony is perjured testimony due you think the da wants him to get on the stand in a CRIMINAL CASE and say what he told the attorneys?

you are as dumb as i think u are ! you admit to taping me illegally but have not put up any proof !

pot calling the kettle black !

i hope he does testify to what he claims to have seen ! and testifies that he talked to eck on the phone ....because then it will be in a criminal case and thats fine with me .

you still are just talking and not putting up any proof ...im calling you a liar !

prove me wrong !


if you cant read the gila county attorney has not said they will never charge him they said they are awaiting the results !

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Gila County can't remove his testimony. This is a civil suit. You can't just tell someone to remove a testimony. We are alot smarter than you take us all out to be Mr. Martinez

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i will post his as soon as the court reporter says they are ready as this took place friday . and i have ordered copies gila county will recieve a copy first so they can dismiss his whole testemony and account of the incident !

without that  there is only negetive reports against eck ! and jr

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Can you post the depositions? Exactly word for word?

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You keep talking about the witness's and the ecks. Their background. You make no sense.

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you asked for proof when you get it im delusional?


then mr eck and the city have no reasons for concern right?

a jury will defineatly rule in his and the cities favor as their reputations are stellar and everyone love the eck family noone has anything bad to say about them?

its up to a jury outside the aj jurisdiction now . too bad you wont be on the jury you might actually be able to stop the suit then huh ?

change of venue , and all the crying about how insecure i am supposed to be and how frivilious you seem to think it is it will be judged by a jury and decide by a jury !

i have no pending charges ! ecks case is awaiting the results that only take 12 days when it suits a city and 6 months when it blackens the eye of a city !

and the witness that claims things he could have never have seen did commit perjury !

he admitted in deposition that he talked to eck that day to help him !

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Read it for us Again, again and again and again. Should I say again 33 times.

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Mr. Martinez,

You keep reading this stuff. You're becoming delusional. Infact it looks rediculous.

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Let's looks at Robert E. Eck III's disregard for our traffic laws. My opinion is that you don't get stopped for this stuff. You get stopped for speeding, etc then the officer finds out you are the vice-mayor's son, but felt he had to give you some sort of ticket. I wish I had somebody to dismiss most of my tickets like this too. Nov 16, 2006 2006 TR-200602193 (1) Operating certified inoperable vehicle without proof of insurance DEFERRED TO ANOTHER COURT FOR PROS. (2) Failure to providence evidence of financial respon. DISMISSED BY AJ MUN COURT Dec 6, 2006 TR-20064798 (1) Operating certified inoperable vehicle without proof of insurance DISMISSED BY CITY ATTORNEY (2) Failure to providence evidence of financial respon. Dismissed by AJ MUNICIPAL COURT. May 2, 2007 TR-200700587 (1) Failure to signal TRANSFERRED TO ANOTHER JURISDICTION (2) No mandatory insurance DISMISSED BY COURT Jun 8, 2007 TR-200700810 (1)Operating certified inoperable vehicle without proof of insurance TRANSFERRED TO ANOTHER JURISIDCTION (2) Failure to providence evidence of financial respon. TRANSFERRED TO ANOTHER JURISDICTION (3)Failure to carry vehicle registration TRANSFERRED TO ANOTHER JURISDICTION. June 15, 2007 TR-20072737 (1) Failure to signal DEFENSIVE DRIVING CLASS (2)No mandatory insurance DISMISSED BY COURT June 18, 2007 TR-20072736 (1) Operating certified inoperable vehicle without proof of insurance DISMISSED BY CITY ATTORNEY (2) Failure to providence evidence of financial respon. DISMISSED BY CITY ATTORNEY (3) Failure to carry vehicle registration PLEAD GUILTY Nov 5, 2008 TR-200801792 Local Charge (?) Paid fine.

 

 you count them and add these with the 33 that didnt even make it to court

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Mr. Martinez has told so many lies he can't keep up anymore. Infact I think he believes it.

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I think Mr. Martinez is reading everything 33 times. And 16 times. Ridiculous

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bold # 1 -  I understand this situation is different, but really, 6 months???

bold # 2 -  Yes, I did read every article I could get my hands on. But nowhere did I read how the conflicted witness statements did not affect Mr. Martinez being charged.

bold # 3 - If you read my statement, nowhere in my post did I use the word "conspirisy." That is your word. I am simply asking questions. I have submitted Letters to the Editor with both of our local papers. However, I do not expect a response from any of the agencies involved. Small potatoes here, compared to other issues at hand. I am certainly not minimizing the suffering of those involved.

bold # 4 - We do agree, and in my opinion, the only thing we can do at this point is let our voices be heard and wait.

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Thanks Mrs. K. My point exactly. Why is Mr. Martinez interested in all this anyway. It has nothing to do with the accident. Its only relevent to the incident only.

I also read the AJ News today. It doesn't make Mr. Martinez look good at all. A little foolish maybe.

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Eric Martinez wrote: ...

and they have done this for years every time they stop eck or his son its a verbal warning and the 33 events and 4 reports will be released to tghe press tommorow along with the recording of judge callahan admitting there is a conspiracy by city officials to commint a cover up on behalf of mr eck !

16 differnt cases of no proof of finacial resonsabity on eck III dimsimissed by aj city court and city attorney joel stern !

hence the lawsuit i promised you mrsK i would file against the city ! they allowed this behavior to continue to the point the vice mayor and his son believed they had a right to use weapons on me and my wife and get away with it not to mention the drunk son and the vice mayo pills that he admits he had no idea how much he took!  

 

would you get in a car driven by mr eck in that scenareo? would you want your family at risk drivivng next to anyone in that condition?

i hope you never get attacked in this way , but if it happened to you ,YOU WOULD WANT HELP! right?

If they are "verbal" warnings, then how do you know about them?


And again, Eric - I think you're blowing smoke in everyone's face because the AJ City Court would not be permitted to hear a case involving a city official's son.  It would have to go to the justice court, and there would be records.  You've made this allegation before and we've all looked up the court records.

Now, if you actually produce some proof to back up these allegations, then I would say you have a case.  But in the overall scheme of things, the son of a small-town city council member is just not worth a county judge risking his reputation and his career for. 

So, we'll be waiting to see what you've got. 

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the papper said that mcso was hiding the tox results as mcso is the deptartment that charged eck and his son as well as myself ..

and they have done this for years every time they stop eck or his son its a verbal warning and the 33 events and 4 reports will be released to tghe press tommorow along with the recording of judge callahan admitting there is a conspiracy by city officials to commint a cover up on behalf of mr eck !

16 differnt cases of no proof of finacial resonsabity on eck III dimsimissed by aj city court and city attorney joel stern !

hence the lawsuit i promised you mrsK i would file against the city ! they allowed this behavior to continue to the point the vice mayor and his son believed they had a right to use weapons on me and my wife and get away with it not to mention the drunk son and the vice mayo pills that he admits he had no idea how much he took!  

 

would you get in a car driven by mr eck in that scenareo? would you want your family at risk drivivng next to anyone in that condition?

i hope you never get attacked in this way , but if it happened to you ,YOU WOULD WANT HELP! right?

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How is MCSO involved?  The AJPD had to "wash their hands" of it, as you put it.  Since a city official was involved, they were required to.

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i feel for the firemen and woman that lost thier lives .....our deepest sympathies to those families and a greatfull riminder of the sacrafices that they made daily .

now in arizona there is no difference in the law as to murder and attempted murder!

12 to 6 months is an obvious cover up of what apache junction knows is innevidible and  mcso isnt hidding the results according to the gila county attorney that yes is covering this up it is the dps lab that is holding up the results .......ever think that thats thge reason he was fired from his seat as vice mayor ..........and that the city might just be done with covering for mr eck and his son because they got caught?

and trying to misdirect attention to mcso that did do thier jobs is a joke !

and they charged me as well , they followed the laws ......they charged the vice mayor and his son ...they did thier jobs ....

ajpd washed thier hands asap as ussuall .........they not only knew he was dui they failed to do anything about it ! and juni was drunk too he couldnt drive home himself !

eck case awaits justice ! ohh yeah and the results!!

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 I am sure that many here will disagree but like I said before , the answers to many of your questions have a simple answer ; ' Good Ole Boy Network '.  I have seen it in action elsewhere , so I am not surprised if its alive and well in AJ. Basically if you are not a member , you get the short end of the stick. 

Then add in the fact that Mr. Martinez is guilty. Guilty of riding a motorcycle. I have heard a lot of nasty remarks regarding bikers in Arizona. Never thought I would see such prejudice out here. I was wrong. Prejudice and judgemental attitudes are rampant in the South. But it seems that 'Ari-bama' is just as bad.  

There is a lot of corruption in the Valley (and the rest of the world) why should AJ be any different ? 

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questionevrything wrote: After reading the article in today's AJ News, Why in the world is the report of Eck’s blood work not back? We are talking over 6 months!! How is it that the blood work from the truck driver who rear ended a group of Motorcycles on March 25th came back in 12 days? And the Pinal County Sheriff’s Office offers no reason for the delay. Where did the blood work go, China? I have followed this story since the incident occurred. How is it that neither the Vice Mayor nor his son were charged with assault?  The driver (R. E. Eck Jr.) of the vehicle should be charged with aggravated assault with a motor vehicle. The definition states “a person is guilty of aggravated assault if he/she causes bodily injury to another person while operating a motor vehicle.”  According to all of the statements I have read, the driver intentionally rear ended the motorcycle causing Mrs. Martinez to fall into the roadway, causing bodily injury. And the person (Robert E. Eck III) who exited the vehicle with a green metal fence post, striking Mr. Martinez, should be charged with assault with a deadly weapon. Yet Mr. Martinez was charged with assault while defending himself, using his fist. I would like to know why Gila County declined to charge either Eck. Their statement “no likelihood of conviction” just does not satisfy me, and if Vice Mayor Eck was driving while impaired, he has most likely been driving while impaired for the last 6 months. I believe that the citizens of this community deserve a better explanation than what we have been given.


In answer to bold #1, it is because there were fatalities.

In response to bold #2, then you didn't read all of the witness statements.  Please revisit the news articles where the witness statements were printed, or get a copy of PCSO's report. 

In response to bold #3, are you saying that the Gila County attorney is in on this "conspiracy"?  Given the conflicting witness statements and the fact that Eck's BAC was negative, I think "no likelikhood of conviction" means just that.  Did they, or did they not, say that charges COULD be refiled if the drug test was positive?  I don't recall.

And bold comment #4, I agree wholeheartedly with you.  It's been long enough, and the voters deserve to know the results.

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After reading the article in today's AJ News, Why in the world is the report of Eck’s blood work not back? We are talking over 6 months!! How is it that the blood work from the truck driver who rear ended a group of Motorcycles on March 25th came back in 12 days? And the Pinal County Sheriff’s Office offers no reason for the delay. Where did the blood work go, China? I have followed this story since the incident occurred. How is it that neither the Vice Mayor nor his son were charged with assault?  The driver (R. E. Eck Jr.) of the vehicle should be charged with aggravated assault with a motor vehicle. The definition states “a person is guilty of aggravated assault if he/she causes bodily injury to another person while operating a motor vehicle.”  According to all of the statements I have read, the driver intentionally rear ended the motorcycle causing Mrs. Martinez to fall into the roadway, causing bodily injury. And the person (Robert E. Eck III) who exited the vehicle with a green metal fence post, striking Mr. Martinez, should be charged with assault with a deadly weapon. Yet Mr. Martinez was charged with assault while defending himself, using his fist. I would like to know why Gila County declined to charge either Eck. Their statement “no likelihood of conviction” just does not satisfy me, and if Vice Mayor Eck was driving while impaired, he has most likely been driving while impaired for the last 6 months. I believe that the citizens of this community deserve a better explanation than what we have been given.

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 Oh how some can dish it out and not be able to take it.

1) I never threatened you. I simply warned that in the insult department I do not play fair. It would not be fair to you to 'go there'.

2) I have never met Mr. Martinez but I do know what it is like to deal with irrational , impaired and under-skilled drivers. Some people do not understand that a drivers license is a privilege not a right. 

3) I also understand how small town politics and the 'good ole boy' network can twist things around to become self serving. I have seen it before.

WatchingU2 , you have been very unfair to Mr, Martinez. You make it your personal agenda to be insulting and extremely abrasive , to many who are simply just expressing their opinion on certain subjects. Maybe if you tried asking intelligent questions without making it a personal attack I could actually have a little respect for you. But the nature of your posts makes me wonder if you are Mr Eck's son , himself .

You say 'we all have your numbers'. Lol , not even close.


Nicotaijulo is a native american name (Apalachee tribe). But most use Nico for short.
 

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nicotaijulo wrote: LOL! Are attempting to insult me ? I really do not think that you want to play that game with me . :P 

 I am entitled to my opinion just like everyone else.

As I stated , they both were being immature , but an elected official is supposed to set an example .

And yes , in my opinion  someone who attempts to solve a problem with a metal pipe is acting like (among other things) a REDNECK.

BTW it's 'you're' as in you are not 'your'.:shock:


nico or whatever your name is.

Its abvious you are all friends of Mr. Martinez. And don't threaten me. You and your other friends arefar  from a threat to anyone in this town. Believe me. We all have your numbers.

But how many times do we need you all to inform us on how to see Mr. Eck on any of your links. We have seen it. Been there done that. Enough. Move on. Get some counciling or something.

Let us have our blogs back. Deal with Mr. Eck in a different way. Its obviously not working. In fact makes you and Mr. Martinez sound desperate. And I mean DESPERATE.

What is it you want from our bloggs.

Please let us have our blogs back

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would you say he sounds sober in this video the night it happened?

on the link to abc15 news report that made him the victim?


 

http://www.abc15.com/content/news/southeastvalley/apachejunction/story/PCSO-Valley-official-may-be-charged-in-road-rage/BxA0bA7EZkCCMQmVzgLlGQ.cspx?p=Comments

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az sunshine....he stated in the report and in the barker newspaper that he took an UNDETERMINED amount the night before ..........an undeterminable amount would be more than you could either count ....or you just shovel them in your mouth ...........

most people who have been on this type of meds do what i refer to as a med shuffle because prolonged use causes addiction !!!!!

no rational doctor who cares about his medical license would keep a person on this medication for the amount of time he claims he has been on it .

and its a very good question  how much is he precribed ?? lets ask his doctor in court shall we?

and if he has a priscription he would certainly show the pappers he has a right to be on this medication??

and to watching you  ,,, do you need a tissue? is daddy loosing his ability to protect his feminine son?

now the laws might affect him in the same way it does all of us!

see you both in 5-15

 

 

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Sorry about that . I am not exactly Bill Gates when it comes to computers but I do try to learn as I go. Hopefully this will work.

http://www.abc15.com/content/news/southeastvalley/apachejunction/story/PCSO-Valley-official-may-be-charged-in-road-rage/BxA0bA7EZkCCMQmVzgLlGQ.cspx?p=Comments

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Article regarding the incident:

https://webmail.west.cox.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fshar.es%252Fmqccs

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I agree Fisher -

                           WatchingU2 asks why I think Eck is guilty ? Hmmmm....could it be that there were many witnesses that reported that Eck caused the accident ? Could it be that witnesses saw his son come out of the truck with a metal pipe ? Or could it be that witnesses saw Eck ram his truck in retaliation to the ongoing altercation ?

In any case someone like that obviuosly has issues and in my opinion has no business holding a political position of any kind. It is very obvious from witness testimonies that is has a bad temper , cannot control his son , and will retaliate in a highly tense situation. This shows a lack of character. Not exactly a shining example of community leadership.

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Just when I thought there was no intelligent life on these forums!

My faith is restored!

Thank You

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LOL! Are attempting to insult me ? I really do not think that you want to play that game with me . :P 

 I am entitled to my opinion just like everyone else.

As I stated , they both were being immature , but an elected official is supposed to set an example .

And yes , in my opinion  someone who attempts to solve a problem with a metal pipe is acting like (among other things) a REDNECK.

BTW it's 'you're' as in you are not 'your'.:shock:

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nicotaijulo wrote: WatchingU2  - You missed my point. Some people abuse prescriptions to the point of becoming 'somewhat' resistant . I did not say that it was a lethal dose ...just an extreme amount.

Look at the amounts Rush Limbaugh was taking.

I do not think that it is right for anyone  to take any  amount of drugs that have those types of side effects and get behind the wheel. It is just plain irresponsible .

And even if Eck turns up clean in the toxicology report , his behavior was deplorable. As a Vice-mayor he should be setting an example. Even if Mr. Martinez had flipped him the bird -big deal ! He should have been the bigger man and handled it differently. Martinez punched him ? Does Eck not know how to roll up his truck window when someone approaches him in a hostile manner ?  

And what about his son ? He reacts to an accident that was his Dad's fault by grabbing a metal pipe ???

Granted, they both acted in an immature manner but Eck is an elected official , for crying out loud !  And the accident was his fault ! The whole scenario sounded very redneck to me !

Or your the redneck. Because this post is very redneck to me!

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I think you miss my point. What makes you think Mr. Eck is guilty of anything.

 

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WatchingU2  - You missed my point. Some people abuse prescriptions to the point of becoming 'somewhat' resistant . I did not say that it was a lethal dose ...just an extreme amount.

Look at the amounts Rush Limbaugh was taking.

I do not think that it is right for anyone  to take any  amount of drugs that have those types of side effects and get behind the wheel. It is just plain irresponsible .

And even if Eck turns up clean in the toxicology report , his behavior was deplorable. As a Vice-mayor he should be setting an example. Even if Mr. Martinez had flipped him the bird -big deal ! He should have been the bigger man and handled it differently. Martinez punched him ? Does Eck not know how to roll up his truck window when someone approaches him in a hostile manner ?  

And what about his son ? He reacts to an accident that was his Dad's fault by grabbing a metal pipe ???

Granted, they both acted in an immature manner but Eck is an elected official , for crying out loud !  And the accident was his fault ! The whole scenario sounded very redneck to me !

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nicotaijulo wrote: I have a prescription for Oxycodone HCL 5 MG ( I don't take it because it makes me itch like crazy). The prescribed dosage : Take 1 to 2 tablets by mouth 3 times a day as needed for pain.

Warning label 1 : May cause drowsiness . Alcohol may intensify effect. Use care when operating machines.

Warning label 2 : May cause dizziness.

Warning label 3 : Taking more than recommended may cause breathing problems. 

 I am no lawyer, but it seems that if Eck is taking more than the recommended dosage and driving then he is being negligent.

Everyone has a different reaction to prescription drugs but you say he may have had anywhere from 80mg to 320mg in his system ? ! :shock: I am pretty sure that I would be on the floor after 20mg !!!

Any idea yet of what dosage he is prescribed to take ? 

I agree. That is an extreme amount. I don't think he would be alive if that were true

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