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ABC Shows Mock Up of Proposed Ronald Reagan $50 Bill
By Brent Baker (Bio | Archive)
Thu, 03/04/2010 - 01:32 ET
ABC squeezed in a short item Wednesday night on a House resolution to put Ronald Reagan on the $50 bill, a report most notable for the enticing mock-up ABC’s graphics artists created. Anchor Diane Sawyer announced on the March 3 World News:
All right, quick, who is on the $50 bill? If you said Ulysses S. Grant, you’re right. But if some people have their way, that’s going to change soon. There's a move afoot to put Ronald Reagan on the $50, led by 14 Republican Members of Congress who are sponsoring a new bill calling for the change in honor of the 100th anniversary of Reagan's birth next year.
Republican Patrick McHenry of North Carolina (10th Congressional District, west of Charlotte) submitted: “H. R. 4705. To require the Secretary of the Treasury to redesign the face of $50 Federal reserve notes so as to include a likeness of President Ronald Wilson Reagan.”
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razenkn wrote: Bush Jokes About Intelligence, Knocks Jimmy Carter
Posted by Brian Montopoli
Former President George W. Bush joked about his intelligence, said Dick Cheney is doing well following his fifth heart attack and took a shot at Jimmy Carter at a breakfast for the Bush-Cheney Alumni Association Friday morning.
"This is going to come as quite a shock to people up here that I can write a book, much less read one," the former president said, according to Politico. Mr. Bush is currently working on a memoir.
He also reportedly told an audience of administration alumni that Cheney, who had planned to come to the meeting, was not able to attend following his recent heart attack. He said the former vice president is "feeling well" and "has a fierce constitution."
Added Mr. Bush: "I have no desire to see myself on television. I don't want to be a panel of formers instructing the currents on what to do...I'm trying to regain a sense of anonymity. I didn't like it when a certain former president -- and it wasn't 41 or 42 -- made my life miserable."
That appears to be a shot at former President Jimmy Carter (#39), who said back in 2006 that the Iraq war had been "a flat disaster" and that the Bush administration "and particularly the vice president and the secretary of defense have, I think, quite often deliberately misled the American people about the danger in Iraq to begin with, the causes for going to war in Iraq, and they have also misled the American people about what is happening in Iraq since we invaded."
Carter was also exceedingly critical of Cheney and called the Bush administration the "worst in history" from the perspective of its "adverse impact on the nation around the world," though he later walked back that comment as "maybe careless or misinterpreted."
Mr. Bush met with Cheney for about an hour on Thursday at Cheney's residence, the first time they have seen each other since President Obama's inauguration, as CNN reports. Details of the meeting between the two men were not disclosed. According to Cheney, they speak on the phone "periodically."
The former president and vice president have taken diverging paths since leaving the White House, with Cheney making high-profile criticisms of the Obama administration as Mr. Bush has largely stayed out of the spotlight, saying Mr. Obama "deserves my silence." Last week Cheney suggested that Mr. Obama would be a one-term president.
Cheney has also indicated he disagreed with some Bush administration decisions, including the trial of terror suspects in civilian courts and the lack of a full pardon for former Cheney chief of staff Lewis "Scooter" Libby following the Valerie Plame scandal.
Cheney, like Mr. Bush, is working on a memoir.
The Bush-Cheney Alumni Association, which hosted Friday's breakfast, is the new name for Bush-Cheney 2004 Inc., the organization that ran Mr. Bush's reelection campaign.
It is "devoted to furthering the ideas and principles of the Bush-Cheney Administration with the hope that they will continue to positively impact our nation and the world for years to come," according to an email to supporters reported by the Wall Street Journal.
At the breakfast, Mr. Bush said for the first time he approved of Cheney's post-White House role, saying, "I'm glad Cheney is out there."
As Politico reports, he also said No Child Left Behind was "the most advanced civil rights legislation since the Voting Rights Act." And he warned against "swagger," saying "sometimes I got carried away rallying the country."
I much prefer the honest and humble style of Bush...over the arrogant and condescending style Obama brings to the presidency! 
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Bush Jokes About Intelligence, Knocks Jimmy Carter
Posted by Brian Montopoli
Former President George W. Bush joked about his intelligence, said Dick Cheney is doing well following his fifth heart attack and took a shot at Jimmy Carter at a breakfast for the Bush-Cheney Alumni Association Friday morning.
"This is going to come as quite a shock to people up here that I can write a book, much less read one," the former president said, according to Politico. Mr. Bush is currently working on a memoir.
He also reportedly told an audience of administration alumni that Cheney, who had planned to come to the meeting, was not able to attend following his recent heart attack. He said the former vice president is "feeling well" and "has a fierce constitution."
Added Mr. Bush: "I have no desire to see myself on television. I don't want to be a panel of formers instructing the currents on what to do...I'm trying to regain a sense of anonymity. I didn't like it when a certain former president -- and it wasn't 41 or 42 -- made my life miserable."
That appears to be a shot at former President Jimmy Carter (#39), who said back in 2006 that the Iraq war had been "a flat disaster" and that the Bush administration "and particularly the vice president and the secretary of defense have, I think, quite often deliberately misled the American people about the danger in Iraq to begin with, the causes for going to war in Iraq, and they have also misled the American people about what is happening in Iraq since we invaded."
Carter was also exceedingly critical of Cheney and called the Bush administration the "worst in history" from the perspective of its "adverse impact on the nation around the world," though he later walked back that comment as "maybe careless or misinterpreted."
Mr. Bush met with Cheney for about an hour on Thursday at Cheney's residence, the first time they have seen each other since President Obama's inauguration, as CNN reports. Details of the meeting between the two men were not disclosed. According to Cheney, they speak on the phone "periodically."
The former president and vice president have taken diverging paths since leaving the White House, with Cheney making high-profile criticisms of the Obama administration as Mr. Bush has largely stayed out of the spotlight, saying Mr. Obama "deserves my silence." Last week Cheney suggested that Mr. Obama would be a one-term president.
Cheney has also indicated he disagreed with some Bush administration decisions, including the trial of terror suspects in civilian courts and the lack of a full pardon for former Cheney chief of staff Lewis "Scooter" Libby following the Valerie Plame scandal.
Cheney, like Mr. Bush, is working on a memoir.
The Bush-Cheney Alumni Association, which hosted Friday's breakfast, is the new name for Bush-Cheney 2004 Inc., the organization that ran Mr. Bush's reelection campaign.
It is "devoted to furthering the ideas and principles of the Bush-Cheney Administration with the hope that they will continue to positively impact our nation and the world for years to come," according to an email to supporters reported by the Wall Street Journal.
At the breakfast, Mr. Bush said for the first time he approved of Cheney's post-White House role, saying, "I'm glad Cheney is out there."
As Politico reports, he also said No Child Left Behind was "the most advanced civil rights legislation since the Voting Rights Act." And he warned against "swagger," saying "sometimes I got carried away rallying the country."
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Conservatives Pack Largest-Ever CPAC
Thursday, 18 Feb 2010 10:39 AM
By: Ronald Kessler
This time last year, pundits were predicting the end of conservatism and the Republican Party.
So-called conservative columnists like David Frum, formerly of National Review, and David Brooks of The New York Times were warning conservatives that something was wrong with their beliefs.
But Dave Keene, chairman of the American Conservative Union, was predicting that President Obama would overreach and help Republicans return to power.
As the elections in Massachusetts, Virginia, and New Jersey demonstrated, Keene was dead on.
This week, Keene presides over the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC), where a 28 percent increase in registrations over last year underscores his optimism. With more than 10,000 conservative activists attending this year, CPAC has moved to Washington’s Marriott Wardman Park Hotel, where the ballroom holds 2 1/2 times more people than at the previous location.
Besides speeches by the likes of Mitt Romney, Marco Rubio, Newt Gingrich, Glenn Beck, Michele Bachmann, Liz Cheney, and George Will, CPAC features panels focusing on issues, workshops on campaign techniques, booths run by 96 co-sponsors, and receptions and dinners.
“The difference between this year and previous years is that we really are in the midst of a revitalization of commitment to conservative ideals at the grass roots,” Keene tells Newsmax. “The town-hall meetings, the tea parties, the sort of unwillingness of conservatives at the local level to be directed by establishment politicians and establishment parties, while being dedicated to the very values that national conservatives have been arguing for years, is really a rebirth of the conservative movement.”
In contrast, “All you have to do is think back a year or so, when Barack Obama and the Democrats and the liberals were riding high and we were told that the days of conservative ascendancy had ended, that the conservative philosophy was no longer saleable,” Keene says. “Even some within our own midst were saying that this dedication to limited government just wouldn’t sell in the modern world, that we needed to abandon those kinds of things and get with the program.”
Now, Keene says, “It is precisely those traditional values, that traditional view that individuals rather than the state ought to be making decisions, that has revitalized the movement all the way down to every locality that you can imagine. And that is now flowing in and strengthening the movement nationally as well.”
Looking back, Keene says he underestimated just how much Obama would overreach.
In Keene’s view, Obama “really does seem to believe that the American people really want him to do what he wants to do. And to the extent that they don’t get lined up behind him, it’s either a result of some conspiracy from the right or the influence of cable news and talking heads, or it’s because for some reason the public isn’t smart enough to absorb what he really wants to do for them.”
As it turns out, Obama “misread the public,” Keene says. “In a democratic system, if you misread the public and you try to take people out into a direction they don’t want to go, and you push it enough, you’re going to get just the kind of push-back that Obama’s gotten. And that push-back may not only spell troubled days for him, but it could doom his party in the next election.”
The public’s growing disenchantment with Obama has helped spawn the tea party movement, which strengthens this revitalization of the conservative movement, Keene says.
“You’ve got a boiling ferment at the local level as people who’ve never been involved in politics before are saying, We’re scared,” Keene observes. "They say the country’s off track, something needs to be done, the government’s spending too much money, nobody’s listening to us. And they have become a movement on their own.”
As a result, “We’ve got a spontaneity that is most probably reminiscent of the way the movement developed in the late ’60s and early ’70s before the national victories that began the centralization of the movement in Washington,” Keene says.
While Sarah Palin has positioned herself as a spokesperson for grass-roots activists, she has so far declined to speak at CPAC.
“We’ve invited her, and she’s been unable to make it for the last three years,” Keene says. “She said last year she was going to make it and then wasn’t able to. This year she’s been on her book tour, and she’s got other things, and she did the so-called tea party convention, and I don’t know what she’s doing right now. But we’re hoping that she’ll be with us next time.”
As in the past, the ACU’s foundation, which actually runs CPAC, has priced tickets so students can buy them.
“The first CPAC was held in 1973,” Keene says. “It had about 125 people attending, and Ronald Reagan was the speaker.”
Reagan proved to be a loyal fan of CPAC, speaking at 17 of them. At one of the dinners, the president mentioned to Keene that he could talk to rich people and establishment Republicans any time.
“But,” Reagan said, “this is the only place that I can come to and talk to the people that got me to where I am today, the people who make up this movement. It’s the only place where they get together annually. It’s the only place they can afford to attend, because they’re not the rich people, they’re not the grandees.”
Reagan asked Keene to promise that he will never change CPAC so that it becomes impossible for those people to come.
“Keep the price low, make sure that you’re bringing in new people, and keep CPAC what it’s become and what it ought to always be,” Reagan said.
Given that half the attendees this year will be college students, CPAC has remained true to that request.
Ronald Kessler is chief Washington correspondent of Newsmax.com.
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callmelou wrote: Razenkn wrote: callmelou wrote: Razenkn wrote: John Murtha: Requiem for a Corruptocrat
by Michelle Malkin
We are not supposed to speak ill of the dead. But those whom the deceased viciously smeared and humiliated deserve to be defended. Entrenched Democratic Rep. John Murtha passed away on Feb. 8 after a botched gallbladder surgery. He has been hailed as a "military advocate" (Associated Press) and "one of the greatest patriots ever to serve in Congress" (former Democratic Rep. Harold Ford Jr.). These obsequious obituaries leave out inconvenient truths:
John "Jack" Murtha was an unrepentant smear merchant and corruptocrat to the bitter end.
In May 2006, during an MSNBC TV show appearance that Marines and their families will never forget or forgive, Murtha accused U.S. troops of wantonly killing some two dozen civilians, including children, in the terrorist stronghold of Haditha, Iraq. Bellowed Murtha: "Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them, and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood." Murtha publicly indicted the Marines before military investigations had been completed. His remarks opened military-bashing floodgates around the world.
In the wake of Murtha's reckless blabbing, MSNBC executioner Keith Olbermann accused the Haditha Marines of "willful targeted brutality." The Nation magazine claimed that "members of the 3rd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment perpetrated a massacre." The New York Times dubbed Haditha the "defining atrocity" of the Iraq war. International papers piled on with Vietnam-era "My Lai" allusions. Murtha cold-bloodedly sat back and enjoyed the ride while the Marines were left twisting in the wind.
By 2008, seven of the Marines charged in the incident had been exonerated or had charges against them dropped. Lt. Andrew Grayson was acquitted. Lance Cpl. Stephen Tatum, Capt. Lucas McConnell, Lance Cpl. Justin Sharratt, Sgt. Sanick Dela Cruz and Lt. Col. Jeffrey Chessani all had their cases dismissed. Sgt. Frank Wuterich, the last of the Marines facing charges, awaits a long, dragged-out trial this year.
Murtha, the so-called "military advocate," went to his deathbed refusing to apologize or retract the attacks on the Haditha Marines (several of whom unsuccessfully sued him for libel to restore their honor). Decent people would call this intransigent treachery. Murtha's friends apparently consider it great patriotism.
The ego-bloated, big-mouthed lawmaker treated his own constituents with trademark contempt. During his last congressional campaign, he mocked voters in his district as bigots. "There's no question that western Pennsylvania is a racist area," he told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. Responding to mounting criticism on both sides of the aisle about his logrolling orgies on the Hill, he sniffed: "If I'm corrupt, it's because I take care of my district."
First, foremost and forever, Jack Murtha took care of Jack Murtha. The glowing encomiums from his liberal colleagues have glossed over the 19-term Democrat's defining moment of political self-service. In 1980, Murtha was an unindicted co-conspirator in a massive bribery probe -- in which undercover FBI agents videotaped Murtha entertaining a $50,000 bribe from agents posing as emissaries for Arab sheiks trying to enter our country illegally. From transcripts of those conversations published by the late newspaper columnist Jack Anderson, Murtha's true colors shined:
"I want to deal with you guys awhile before I make any transactions at all, period. … After we've done some business, well, then I might change my mind. …"
"I'm going to tell you this. If anybody can do it -- I'm not B.S.-ing you fellows -- I can get it done my way," he boasted. "There's no question about it."
Murtha worried not about his integrity or how his constituents might be harmed, but about getting ratted out:
"All at once," he said, "some dumb (expletive deleted) would go start talking eight years from now about this whole thing and say (expletive deleted), this happened. Then in order to get immunity so he doesn't go to jail, he starts talking and fingering people. So the (S.O.B.) falls apart."
"You give us the banks where you want the money deposited," offered one of the bagmen.
"All right," agreed Murtha. "How much money we talking about?"
"Well, you tell me."
By the time of his death, Murtha had been caught intervening on behalf of a law-breaking Pennsylvania company convicted of selling military equipment parts illegally overseas; had steered unprecedented billions in federal earmarks to friends, family and donors; had earned multiple "most corrupt in Congress" designations from both the left-leaning Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington and the right-leaning Judicial Watch; and had remained intimately tied to PMA Group, a former lobbying firm under federal investigation, and Kuchera Industries, a defense contractor also under federal investigation.
From his character assassination of innocents to his insatiable appetite for pork and power, Jack Murtha embodied everything that is wrong with Washington. If only the culture of corruption he serviced could be buried six feet under with him.
How conservative to attack the deceased who can't defend themselves. Conservatives suck.
Really?? You might want to ask the Soldiers John Murtha accused of killing people in cold blood what they think about him dead or alive. He just about ruined their lives and you can only imagine what their families went through. Just because he died doesn't change the bad things he did and he did many. I know liberals like to change history to make life more pleasant in that green sky world but Conservatives stick to the facts. Just the facts max. Sometimes the truth is hard to hear.  
Simply put (so you can understand it): You lie. Conservatives suck.
Wow, you are so profound Rosie's! It's amazing to me how you can read this article, read what I post and then say "you lie" when you have the proof right in front of your eyes. John Murtha was a dirtbag. That is a fact. Liberals protected him, kept him in office, kept him on important decision making committees and the whole time knowing he was a dirtbag. Very similar to what they are doing with Charlie Rangel...looking the other way. That is why nobody trusts the liberals in the Democrat party. They have lost their credibility as well as trust. Juice drinkers like you reinforce that behavior by going into lalaland denial whenever it's pointed out. This isn't anything to do with Conservatives. So why take it out on us? It's your party you need to say "you lie" to because they do it daily and it's your party who "sucks" because they aren't honest with the folks, that would be you and me. You know that draining the swamp thingy??? Apparently nancyfancypants forgot to add we will drain the swamp but they have to die first, quite simply put.
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Razenkn wrote: callmelou wrote: Razenkn wrote: John Murtha: Requiem for a Corruptocrat
by Michelle Malkin
We are not supposed to speak ill of the dead. But those whom the deceased viciously smeared and humiliated deserve to be defended. Entrenched Democratic Rep. John Murtha passed away on Feb. 8 after a botched gallbladder surgery. He has been hailed as a "military advocate" (Associated Press) and "one of the greatest patriots ever to serve in Congress" (former Democratic Rep. Harold Ford Jr.). These obsequious obituaries leave out inconvenient truths:
John "Jack" Murtha was an unrepentant smear merchant and corruptocrat to the bitter end.
In May 2006, during an MSNBC TV show appearance that Marines and their families will never forget or forgive, Murtha accused U.S. troops of wantonly killing some two dozen civilians, including children, in the terrorist stronghold of Haditha, Iraq. Bellowed Murtha: "Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them, and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood." Murtha publicly indicted the Marines before military investigations had been completed. His remarks opened military-bashing floodgates around the world.
In the wake of Murtha's reckless blabbing, MSNBC executioner Keith Olbermann accused the Haditha Marines of "willful targeted brutality." The Nation magazine claimed that "members of the 3rd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment perpetrated a massacre." The New York Times dubbed Haditha the "defining atrocity" of the Iraq war. International papers piled on with Vietnam-era "My Lai" allusions. Murtha cold-bloodedly sat back and enjoyed the ride while the Marines were left twisting in the wind.
By 2008, seven of the Marines charged in the incident had been exonerated or had charges against them dropped. Lt. Andrew Grayson was acquitted. Lance Cpl. Stephen Tatum, Capt. Lucas McConnell, Lance Cpl. Justin Sharratt, Sgt. Sanick Dela Cruz and Lt. Col. Jeffrey Chessani all had their cases dismissed. Sgt. Frank Wuterich, the last of the Marines facing charges, awaits a long, dragged-out trial this year.
Murtha, the so-called "military advocate," went to his deathbed refusing to apologize or retract the attacks on the Haditha Marines (several of whom unsuccessfully sued him for libel to restore their honor). Decent people would call this intransigent treachery. Murtha's friends apparently consider it great patriotism.
The ego-bloated, big-mouthed lawmaker treated his own constituents with trademark contempt. During his last congressional campaign, he mocked voters in his district as bigots. "There's no question that western Pennsylvania is a racist area," he told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. Responding to mounting criticism on both sides of the aisle about his logrolling orgies on the Hill, he sniffed: "If I'm corrupt, it's because I take care of my district."
First, foremost and forever, Jack Murtha took care of Jack Murtha. The glowing encomiums from his liberal colleagues have glossed over the 19-term Democrat's defining moment of political self-service. In 1980, Murtha was an unindicted co-conspirator in a massive bribery probe -- in which undercover FBI agents videotaped Murtha entertaining a $50,000 bribe from agents posing as emissaries for Arab sheiks trying to enter our country illegally. From transcripts of those conversations published by the late newspaper columnist Jack Anderson, Murtha's true colors shined:
"I want to deal with you guys awhile before I make any transactions at all, period. … After we've done some business, well, then I might change my mind. …"
"I'm going to tell you this. If anybody can do it -- I'm not B.S.-ing you fellows -- I can get it done my way," he boasted. "There's no question about it."
Murtha worried not about his integrity or how his constituents might be harmed, but about getting ratted out:
"All at once," he said, "some dumb (expletive deleted) would go start talking eight years from now about this whole thing and say (expletive deleted), this happened. Then in order to get immunity so he doesn't go to jail, he starts talking and fingering people. So the (S.O.B.) falls apart."
"You give us the banks where you want the money deposited," offered one of the bagmen.
"All right," agreed Murtha. "How much money we talking about?"
"Well, you tell me."
By the time of his death, Murtha had been caught intervening on behalf of a law-breaking Pennsylvania company convicted of selling military equipment parts illegally overseas; had steered unprecedented billions in federal earmarks to friends, family and donors; had earned multiple "most corrupt in Congress" designations from both the left-leaning Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington and the right-leaning Judicial Watch; and had remained intimately tied to PMA Group, a former lobbying firm under federal investigation, and Kuchera Industries, a defense contractor also under federal investigation.
From his character assassination of innocents to his insatiable appetite for pork and power, Jack Murtha embodied everything that is wrong with Washington. If only the culture of corruption he serviced could be buried six feet under with him.
How conservative to attack the deceased who can't defend themselves. Conservatives suck.
Really?? You might want to ask the Soldiers John Murtha accused of killing people in cold blood what they think about him dead or alive. He just about ruined their lives and you can only imagine what their families went through. Just because he died doesn't change the bad things he did and he did many. I know liberals like to change history to make life more pleasant in that green sky world but Conservatives stick to the facts. Just the facts max. Sometimes the truth is hard to hear.
Simply put (so you can understand it): You lie. Conservatives suck.
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February 15, 2010
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No consensus?
Global warming dominated the headlines this weekend and that's not a good thing for the alarmists. Some of the prominent scientists in the warming community are saying, among other things, that there is actually no consensus. Kind of an important detail there, don't ya think? It's all falling apart for the alarmists, but that's not stopping the Cap and Tax bill from moving forward. Glenn explains on today’s radio program. ( Transcript, Insider Audio)
Life after media
With news outfits like the New York Times and CBS News suffering financially, journalists are suddenly feeling the heat of the economy. Combine that with the rise in online reporting from blogs and wildly popular news sites like Drudge Report, and it's even more pause for concern. What will journalists do if they get fired? An Obama bailout! How is the President saving the careers of journalists everywhere? Find out in the latest Beck Talks video blog. WATCH
Tonight on TV: How Democrats and Republicans have sold Americans down the river and what needs to be done to right the ship. Don't miss that and more at 5pm only on the Fox News Channel!
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callmelou wrote: Razenkn wrote: John Murtha: Requiem for a Corruptocrat
by Michelle Malkin
We are not supposed to speak ill of the dead. But those whom the deceased viciously smeared and humiliated deserve to be defended. Entrenched Democratic Rep. John Murtha passed away on Feb. 8 after a botched gallbladder surgery. He has been hailed as a "military advocate" (Associated Press) and "one of the greatest patriots ever to serve in Congress" (former Democratic Rep. Harold Ford Jr.). These obsequious obituaries leave out inconvenient truths:
John "Jack" Murtha was an unrepentant smear merchant and corruptocrat to the bitter end.
In May 2006, during an MSNBC TV show appearance that Marines and their families will never forget or forgive, Murtha accused U.S. troops of wantonly killing some two dozen civilians, including children, in the terrorist stronghold of Haditha, Iraq. Bellowed Murtha: "Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them, and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood." Murtha publicly indicted the Marines before military investigations had been completed. His remarks opened military-bashing floodgates around the world.
In the wake of Murtha's reckless blabbing, MSNBC executioner Keith Olbermann accused the Haditha Marines of "willful targeted brutality." The Nation magazine claimed that "members of the 3rd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment perpetrated a massacre." The New York Times dubbed Haditha the "defining atrocity" of the Iraq war. International papers piled on with Vietnam-era "My Lai" allusions. Murtha cold-bloodedly sat back and enjoyed the ride while the Marines were left twisting in the wind.
By 2008, seven of the Marines charged in the incident had been exonerated or had charges against them dropped. Lt. Andrew Grayson was acquitted. Lance Cpl. Stephen Tatum, Capt. Lucas McConnell, Lance Cpl. Justin Sharratt, Sgt. Sanick Dela Cruz and Lt. Col. Jeffrey Chessani all had their cases dismissed. Sgt. Frank Wuterich, the last of the Marines facing charges, awaits a long, dragged-out trial this year.
Murtha, the so-called "military advocate," went to his deathbed refusing to apologize or retract the attacks on the Haditha Marines (several of whom unsuccessfully sued him for libel to restore their honor). Decent people would call this intransigent treachery. Murtha's friends apparently consider it great patriotism.
The ego-bloated, big-mouthed lawmaker treated his own constituents with trademark contempt. During his last congressional campaign, he mocked voters in his district as bigots. "There's no question that western Pennsylvania is a racist area," he told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. Responding to mounting criticism on both sides of the aisle about his logrolling orgies on the Hill, he sniffed: "If I'm corrupt, it's because I take care of my district."
First, foremost and forever, Jack Murtha took care of Jack Murtha. The glowing encomiums from his liberal colleagues have glossed over the 19-term Democrat's defining moment of political self-service. In 1980, Murtha was an unindicted co-conspirator in a massive bribery probe -- in which undercover FBI agents videotaped Murtha entertaining a $50,000 bribe from agents posing as emissaries for Arab sheiks trying to enter our country illegally. From transcripts of those conversations published by the late newspaper columnist Jack Anderson, Murtha's true colors shined:
"I want to deal with you guys awhile before I make any transactions at all, period. … After we've done some business, well, then I might change my mind. …"
"I'm going to tell you this. If anybody can do it -- I'm not B.S.-ing you fellows -- I can get it done my way," he boasted. "There's no question about it."
Murtha worried not about his integrity or how his constituents might be harmed, but about getting ratted out:
"All at once," he said, "some dumb (expletive deleted) would go start talking eight years from now about this whole thing and say (expletive deleted), this happened. Then in order to get immunity so he doesn't go to jail, he starts talking and fingering people. So the (S.O.B.) falls apart."
"You give us the banks where you want the money deposited," offered one of the bagmen.
"All right," agreed Murtha. "How much money we talking about?"
"Well, you tell me."
By the time of his death, Murtha had been caught intervening on behalf of a law-breaking Pennsylvania company convicted of selling military equipment parts illegally overseas; had steered unprecedented billions in federal earmarks to friends, family and donors; had earned multiple "most corrupt in Congress" designations from both the left-leaning Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington and the right-leaning Judicial Watch; and had remained intimately tied to PMA Group, a former lobbying firm under federal investigation, and Kuchera Industries, a defense contractor also under federal investigation.
From his character assassination of innocents to his insatiable appetite for pork and power, Jack Murtha embodied everything that is wrong with Washington. If only the culture of corruption he serviced could be buried six feet under with him.
How conservative to attack the deceased who can't defend themselves. Conservatives suck.
Really?? You might want to ask the Soldiers John Murtha accused of killing people in cold blood what they think about him dead or alive. He just about ruined their lives and you can only imagine what their families went through. Just because he died doesn't change the bad things he did and he did many. I know liberals like to change history to make life more pleasant in that green sky world but Conservatives stick to the facts. Just the facts max. Sometimes the truth is hard to hear.
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Razenkn wrote: John Murtha: Requiem for a Corruptocrat
by Michelle Malkin
We are not supposed to speak ill of the dead. But those whom the deceased viciously smeared and humiliated deserve to be defended. Entrenched Democratic Rep. John Murtha passed away on Feb. 8 after a botched gallbladder surgery. He has been hailed as a "military advocate" (Associated Press) and "one of the greatest patriots ever to serve in Congress" (former Democratic Rep. Harold Ford Jr.). These obsequious obituaries leave out inconvenient truths:
John "Jack" Murtha was an unrepentant smear merchant and corruptocrat to the bitter end.
In May 2006, during an MSNBC TV show appearance that Marines and their families will never forget or forgive, Murtha accused U.S. troops of wantonly killing some two dozen civilians, including children, in the terrorist stronghold of Haditha, Iraq. Bellowed Murtha: "Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them, and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood." Murtha publicly indicted the Marines before military investigations had been completed. His remarks opened military-bashing floodgates around the world.
In the wake of Murtha's reckless blabbing, MSNBC executioner Keith Olbermann accused the Haditha Marines of "willful targeted brutality." The Nation magazine claimed that "members of the 3rd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment perpetrated a massacre." The New York Times dubbed Haditha the "defining atrocity" of the Iraq war. International papers piled on with Vietnam-era "My Lai" allusions. Murtha cold-bloodedly sat back and enjoyed the ride while the Marines were left twisting in the wind.
By 2008, seven of the Marines charged in the incident had been exonerated or had charges against them dropped. Lt. Andrew Grayson was acquitted. Lance Cpl. Stephen Tatum, Capt. Lucas McConnell, Lance Cpl. Justin Sharratt, Sgt. Sanick Dela Cruz and Lt. Col. Jeffrey Chessani all had their cases dismissed. Sgt. Frank Wuterich, the last of the Marines facing charges, awaits a long, dragged-out trial this year.
Murtha, the so-called "military advocate," went to his deathbed refusing to apologize or retract the attacks on the Haditha Marines (several of whom unsuccessfully sued him for libel to restore their honor). Decent people would call this intransigent treachery. Murtha's friends apparently consider it great patriotism.
The ego-bloated, big-mouthed lawmaker treated his own constituents with trademark contempt. During his last congressional campaign, he mocked voters in his district as bigots. "There's no question that western Pennsylvania is a racist area," he told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. Responding to mounting criticism on both sides of the aisle about his logrolling orgies on the Hill, he sniffed: "If I'm corrupt, it's because I take care of my district."
First, foremost and forever, Jack Murtha took care of Jack Murtha. The glowing encomiums from his liberal colleagues have glossed over the 19-term Democrat's defining moment of political self-service. In 1980, Murtha was an unindicted co-conspirator in a massive bribery probe -- in which undercover FBI agents videotaped Murtha entertaining a $50,000 bribe from agents posing as emissaries for Arab sheiks trying to enter our country illegally. From transcripts of those conversations published by the late newspaper columnist Jack Anderson, Murtha's true colors shined:
"I want to deal with you guys awhile before I make any transactions at all, period. … After we've done some business, well, then I might change my mind. …"
"I'm going to tell you this. If anybody can do it -- I'm not B.S.-ing you fellows -- I can get it done my way," he boasted. "There's no question about it."
Murtha worried not about his integrity or how his constituents might be harmed, but about getting ratted out:
"All at once," he said, "some dumb (expletive deleted) would go start talking eight years from now about this whole thing and say (expletive deleted), this happened. Then in order to get immunity so he doesn't go to jail, he starts talking and fingering people. So the (S.O.B.) falls apart."
"You give us the banks where you want the money deposited," offered one of the bagmen.
"All right," agreed Murtha. "How much money we talking about?"
"Well, you tell me."
By the time of his death, Murtha had been caught intervening on behalf of a law-breaking Pennsylvania company convicted of selling military equipment parts illegally overseas; had steered unprecedented billions in federal earmarks to friends, family and donors; had earned multiple "most corrupt in Congress" designations from both the left-leaning Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington and the right-leaning Judicial Watch; and had remained intimately tied to PMA Group, a former lobbying firm under federal investigation, and Kuchera Industries, a defense contractor also under federal investigation.
From his character assassination of innocents to his insatiable appetite for pork and power, Jack Murtha embodied everything that is wrong with Washington. If only the culture of corruption he serviced could be buried six feet under with him.
How conservative to attack the deceased who can't defend themselves. Conservatives suck.
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John Murtha: Requiem for a Corruptocrat
by Michelle Malkin
We are not supposed to speak ill of the dead. But those whom the deceased viciously smeared and humiliated deserve to be defended. Entrenched Democratic Rep. John Murtha passed away on Feb. 8 after a botched gallbladder surgery. He has been hailed as a "military advocate" (Associated Press) and "one of the greatest patriots ever to serve in Congress" (former Democratic Rep. Harold Ford Jr.). These obsequious obituaries leave out inconvenient truths:
John "Jack" Murtha was an unrepentant smear merchant and corruptocrat to the bitter end.
In May 2006, during an MSNBC TV show appearance that Marines and their families will never forget or forgive, Murtha accused U.S. troops of wantonly killing some two dozen civilians, including children, in the terrorist stronghold of Haditha, Iraq. Bellowed Murtha: "Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them, and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood." Murtha publicly indicted the Marines before military investigations had been completed. His remarks opened military-bashing floodgates around the world.
In the wake of Murtha's reckless blabbing, MSNBC executioner Keith Olbermann accused the Haditha Marines of "willful targeted brutality." The Nation magazine claimed that "members of the 3rd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment perpetrated a massacre." The New York Times dubbed Haditha the "defining atrocity" of the Iraq war. International papers piled on with Vietnam-era "My Lai" allusions. Murtha cold-bloodedly sat back and enjoyed the ride while the Marines were left twisting in the wind.
By 2008, seven of the Marines charged in the incident had been exonerated or had charges against them dropped. Lt. Andrew Grayson was acquitted. Lance Cpl. Stephen Tatum, Capt. Lucas McConnell, Lance Cpl. Justin Sharratt, Sgt. Sanick Dela Cruz and Lt. Col. Jeffrey Chessani all had their cases dismissed. Sgt. Frank Wuterich, the last of the Marines facing charges, awaits a long, dragged-out trial this year.
Murtha, the so-called "military advocate," went to his deathbed refusing to apologize or retract the attacks on the Haditha Marines (several of whom unsuccessfully sued him for libel to restore their honor). Decent people would call this intransigent treachery. Murtha's friends apparently consider it great patriotism.
The ego-bloated, big-mouthed lawmaker treated his own constituents with trademark contempt. During his last congressional campaign, he mocked voters in his district as bigots. "There's no question that western Pennsylvania is a racist area," he told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. Responding to mounting criticism on both sides of the aisle about his logrolling orgies on the Hill, he sniffed: "If I'm corrupt, it's because I take care of my district."
First, foremost and forever, Jack Murtha took care of Jack Murtha. The glowing encomiums from his liberal colleagues have glossed over the 19-term Democrat's defining moment of political self-service. In 1980, Murtha was an unindicted co-conspirator in a massive bribery probe -- in which undercover FBI agents videotaped Murtha entertaining a $50,000 bribe from agents posing as emissaries for Arab sheiks trying to enter our country illegally. From transcripts of those conversations published by the late newspaper columnist Jack Anderson, Murtha's true colors shined:
"I want to deal with you guys awhile before I make any transactions at all, period. … After we've done some business, well, then I might change my mind. …"
"I'm going to tell you this. If anybody can do it -- I'm not B.S.-ing you fellows -- I can get it done my way," he boasted. "There's no question about it."
Murtha worried not about his integrity or how his constituents might be harmed, but about getting ratted out:
"All at once," he said, "some dumb (expletive deleted) would go start talking eight years from now about this whole thing and say (expletive deleted), this happened. Then in order to get immunity so he doesn't go to jail, he starts talking and fingering people. So the (S.O.B.) falls apart."
"You give us the banks where you want the money deposited," offered one of the bagmen.
"All right," agreed Murtha. "How much money we talking about?"
"Well, you tell me."
By the time of his death, Murtha had been caught intervening on behalf of a law-breaking Pennsylvania company convicted of selling military equipment parts illegally overseas; had steered unprecedented billions in federal earmarks to friends, family and donors; had earned multiple "most corrupt in Congress" designations from both the left-leaning Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington and the right-leaning Judicial Watch; and had remained intimately tied to PMA Group, a former lobbying firm under federal investigation, and Kuchera Industries, a defense contractor also under federal investigation.
From his character assassination of innocents to his insatiable appetite for pork and power, Jack Murtha embodied everything that is wrong with Washington. If only the culture of corruption he serviced could be buried six feet under with him.
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Razenkn wrote:
Aw come on, you can do better than that can't you?? I wasn't being funny, you had at least a half a dozen insults in that post attempting to engage me in a pissing contest. Sorry, so not interested in your childishness. Why are you picking a fight with me anyway and not gemini?? Why are you hiding from him and targeting me? I'm thinking he really does know who you are and you are terrified of being exposed. I have to say, I'm enjoying that but trying to change the subject to me isn't going to change anything so leave me out of your wars, you get what you ask for. So, what board are you going to??
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Trophywife wrote: Razenkn wrote: Trophywife wrote: Razenkn wrote:
Do you really want us to go back and start pulling out all the vile and nasty crap you have said to all of us at sometime or another?? Do you??? I won't because I don't have that kind of time to waste but just wanted to point out when you make a snide remark, it's cute but when anyone else does it, you get all wounded. Give me a break. Boo-hoo.
I think all this sudden "victimhood" is more about the fact someone got fed up with your nonsense on here and dished it right back at you and you can't take it. In fact, I think you are afraid of him and that makes me laugh. You lash out at me, but it's not me that is in this war, it's you and Gemini and he's not taking your crap anymore. I say good for him. Maybe this will serve as a wake up call for you.....nah, I doubt it. So you can keep going after me, but you need to deal with the real issue and it ain't me sister.
First of all, I never said I wasn't guilty of doing it right along with you and just about everyone else on this forum. (yes, you Cindisue) Second, if you put my nasty posts next to your nasty posts I guarantee you that you have at least a thousand times more than me. You can't post without being nasty as I have proven today and this is ALL you do ALL day! That is a disease - seriously!
Third, you couldn't be farther from the truth when it comes to Gemni. Do you think for one minute that that poor man intimidates me? YOU are the one who makes this board your LIFE. You couldn't live without this board. I truly believe that you sit here 24/7 just waiting to post something and so do a ton of other posters. So you see, I have a REAL life and this board (as I've said time and time again) is just a place where I come to get a good laugh. You will very seldom see me on here after 7pm because that is my time with my wonderful husband. This board is a foolish pleasure.
Gemni has some problems and I don't mean that as a slam. I feel sorry for him and I've told that to many people in the form of a PM. I can't believe that you and all the people who support him don't care enough to tell him what a fool he is making out of himself. Do you really think that I'm afraid he's going to find me. If Gemni scared me for one minute I would not be dealing with it on a stupid forum. Of course, if it was my life like it is for you I might be scared. Don't you think I was laughing my head off last night when I was giving him "clues".
You are the one who cannot handle me - not Gemni. I scare you!
Instead of trying to figure me out, why don't you take your wife out to dinner for Valentines Day like my hubby will be doing tonight. Kiss her instead of kissing the board goodnight. OKEDOKEY
Last but not least, I'll challenge you to see which one of us can go the longest without insulting someone. YOU CAN"T HANDLE THAT CAN YOU??? The ball is in your court!
I win!! (please see all items highlighted in red....insult, after insult). You couldn't even get through this post attempting to challenge me without trying to antagonize and insult. So, what do I get for winning??? You finding another board to go to??? Rokey Dokey??? LOL
Gee you're so funny I forgot to laugh! You can't do it can you? Well that's fine, I'll just have fun pointing out my original statement that you are the most abusive poster on the board. Have fun!
Aw come on, you can do better than that can't you?? I wasn't being funny, you had at least a half a dozen insults in that post attempting to engage me in a pissing contest. Sorry, so not interested in your childishness. Why are you picking a fight with me anyway and not gemini?? Why are you hiding from him and targeting me? I'm thinking he really does know who you are and you are terrified of being exposed. I have to say, I'm enjoying that but trying to change the subject to me isn't going to change anything so leave me out of your wars, you get what you ask for. So, what board are you going to??
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Razenkn wrote: Trophywife wrote: Razenkn wrote:
Do you really want us to go back and start pulling out all the vile and nasty crap you have said to all of us at sometime or another?? Do you??? I won't because I don't have that kind of time to waste but just wanted to point out when you make a snide remark, it's cute but when anyone else does it, you get all wounded. Give me a break. Boo-hoo.
I think all this sudden "victimhood" is more about the fact someone got fed up with your nonsense on here and dished it right back at you and you can't take it. In fact, I think you are afraid of him and that makes me laugh. You lash out at me, but it's not me that is in this war, it's you and Gemini and he's not taking your crap anymore. I say good for him. Maybe this will serve as a wake up call for you.....nah, I doubt it. So you can keep going after me, but you need to deal with the real issue and it ain't me sister.
First of all, I never said I wasn't guilty of doing it right along with you and just about everyone else on this forum. (yes, you Cindisue) Second, if you put my nasty posts next to your nasty posts I guarantee you that you have at least a thousand times more than me. You can't post without being nasty as I have proven today and this is ALL you do ALL day! That is a disease - seriously!
Third, you couldn't be farther from the truth when it comes to Gemni. Do you think for one minute that that poor man intimidates me? YOU are the one who makes this board your LIFE. You couldn't live without this board. I truly believe that you sit here 24/7 just waiting to post something and so do a ton of other posters. So you see, I have a REAL life and this board (as I've said time and time again) is just a place where I come to get a good laugh. You will very seldom see me on here after 7pm because that is my time with my wonderful husband. This board is a foolish pleasure.
Gemni has some problems and I don't mean that as a slam. I feel sorry for him and I've told that to many people in the form of a PM. I can't believe that you and all the people who support him don't care enough to tell him what a fool he is making out of himself. Do you really think that I'm afraid he's going to find me. If Gemni scared me for one minute I would not be dealing with it on a stupid forum. Of course, if it was my life like it is for you I might be scared. Don't you think I was laughing my head off last night when I was giving him "clues".
You are the one who cannot handle me - not Gemni. I scare you!
Instead of trying to figure me out, why don't you take your wife out to dinner for Valentines Day like my hubby will be doing tonight. Kiss her instead of kissing the board goodnight. OKEDOKEY
Last but not least, I'll challenge you to see which one of us can go the longest without insulting someone. YOU CAN"T HANDLE THAT CAN YOU??? The ball is in your court!
I win!! (please see all items highlighted in red....insult, after insult). You couldn't even get through this post attempting to challenge me without trying to antagonize and insult. So, what do I get for winning??? You finding another board to go to??? Rokey Dokey??? LOL
Gee you're so funny I forgot to laugh! You can't do it can you? Well that's fine, I'll just have fun pointing out my original statement that you are the most abusive poster on the board. Have fun!
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Trophywife wrote: Razenkn wrote:
Do you really want us to go back and start pulling out all the vile and nasty crap you have said to all of us at sometime or another?? Do you??? I won't because I don't have that kind of time to waste but just wanted to point out when you make a snide remark, it's cute but when anyone else does it, you get all wounded. Give me a break. Boo-hoo.
I think all this sudden "victimhood" is more about the fact someone got fed up with your nonsense on here and dished it right back at you and you can't take it. In fact, I think you are afraid of him and that makes me laugh. You lash out at me, but it's not me that is in this war, it's you and Gemini and he's not taking your crap anymore. I say good for him. Maybe this will serve as a wake up call for you.....nah, I doubt it. So you can keep going after me, but you need to deal with the real issue and it ain't me sister.
First of all, I never said I wasn't guilty of doing it right along with you and just about everyone else on this forum. (yes, you Cindisue) Second, if you put my nasty posts next to your nasty posts I guarantee you that you have at least a thousand times more than me. You can't post without being nasty as I have proven today and this is ALL you do ALL day! That is a disease - seriously!
Third, you couldn't be farther from the truth when it comes to Gemni. Do you think for one minute that that poor man intimidates me? YOU are the one who makes this board your LIFE. You couldn't live without this board. I truly believe that you sit here 24/7 just waiting to post something and so do a ton of other posters. So you see, I have a REAL life and this board (as I've said time and time again) is just a place where I come to get a good laugh. You will very seldom see me on here after 7pm because that is my time with my wonderful husband. This board is a foolish pleasure.
Gemni has some problems and I don't mean that as a slam. I feel sorry for him and I've told that to many people in the form of a PM. I can't believe that you and all the people who support him don't care enough to tell him what a fool he is making out of himself. Do you really think that I'm afraid he's going to find me. If Gemni scared me for one minute I would not be dealing with it on a stupid forum. Of course, if it was my life like it is for you I might be scared. Don't you think I was laughing my head off last night when I was giving him "clues".
You are the one who cannot handle me - not Gemni. I scare you!
Instead of trying to figure me out, why don't you take your wife out to dinner for Valentines Day like my hubby will be doing tonight. Kiss her instead of kissing the board goodnight. OKEDOKEY
Last but not least, I'll challenge you to see which one of us can go the longest without insulting someone. YOU CAN"T HANDLE THAT CAN YOU??? The ball is in your court!
I win!! (please see all items highlighted in red....insult, after insult). You couldn't even get through this post attempting to challenge me without trying to antagonize and insult. So, what do I get for winning??? You finding another board to go to??? Rokey Dokey??? LOL
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Razenkn wrote:
Do you really want us to go back and start pulling out all the vile and nasty crap you have said to all of us at sometime or another?? Do you??? I won't because I don't have that kind of time to waste but just wanted to point out when you make a snide remark, it's cute but when anyone else does it, you get all wounded. Give me a break. Boo-hoo.
I think all this sudden "victimhood" is more about the fact someone got fed up with your nonsense on here and dished it right back at you and you can't take it. In fact, I think you are afraid of him and that makes me laugh. You lash out at me, but it's not me that is in this war, it's you and Gemini and he's not taking your crap anymore. I say good for him. Maybe this will serve as a wake up call for you.....nah, I doubt it. So you can keep going after me, but you need to deal with the real issue and it ain't me sister.
First of all, I never said I wasn't guilty of doing it right along with you and just about everyone else on this forum. (yes, you Cindisue) Second, if you put my nasty posts next to your nasty posts I guarantee you that you have at least a thousand times more than me. You can't post without being nasty as I have proven today and this is ALL you do ALL day! That is a disease - seriously!
Third, you couldn't be farther from the truth when it comes to Gemni. Do you think for one minute that that poor man intimidates me? YOU are the one who makes this board your LIFE. You couldn't live without this board. I truly believe that you sit here 24/7 just waiting to post something and so do a ton of other posters. So you see, I have a REAL life and this board (as I've said time and time again) is just a place where I come to get a good laugh. You will very seldom see me on here after 7pm because that is my time with my wonderful husband. This board is a foolish pleasure.
Gemni has some problems and I don't mean that as a slam. I feel sorry for him and I've told that to many people in the form of a PM. I can't believe that you and all the people who support him don't care enough to tell him what a fool he is making out of himself. Do you really think that I'm afraid he's going to find me. If Gemni scared me for one minute I would not be dealing with it on a stupid forum. Of course, if it was my life like it is for you I might be scared. Don't you think I was laughing my head off last night when I was giving him "clues".
You are the one who cannot handle me - not Gemni. I scare you!
Instead of trying to figure me out, why don't you take your wife out to dinner for Valentines Day like my hubby will be doing tonight. Kiss her instead of kissing the board goodnight. OKEDOKEY
Last but not least, I'll challenge you to see which one of us can go the longest without insulting someone. YOU CAN"T HANDLE THAT CAN YOU??? The ball is in your court!
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Trophywife wrote: Razenkn wrote: azsu wrote: Trophywife wrote: clarz007 wrote: HALT---STOP---Please get back to the subject matter on the forum! What's the point in having public issues to discuss if the forum members use the forum as a device for slamming each other and making ridiculous comments?
Clarz, it's a proven fact on this board that Raz does that to every single thread posted here whether it's about politics or popcorn. He did it with this thread and I'm sure if you go back to other threads you will see it. He cannot post a response to anyone without name calling. He got kicked off once and he needs to get kicked off again. No one can be attacked and just let it go, including me. This board is a joke.
It happens every time!  Even after your friends deny that you do it.
Razenkn wrote: (today)
Geez Rosie's, did you make that appt to have them take that instrument out they left in your head yet??
and what makes it really obscene is he/she/it gets away with it
LOL...Geez atrophy, you don't need to scream, we can hear you...LOL
I guess I don't have to scream, you prove my point.
That wasn't aimed at you or did I get you two mixed up again, you're so much alike I never can tell??? You forgot to invite me to your pity party atrophy...so I will invite myself. You are the biggest hypocrite there is on this forum. Do you really want us to go back and start pulling out all the vile and nasty crap you have said to all of us at sometime or another?? Do you??? I won't because I don't have that kind of time to waste but just wanted to point out when you make a snide remark, it's cute but when anyone else does it, you get all wounded. Give me a break. Boo-hoo.
I think all this sudden "victimhood" is more about the fact someone got fed up with your nonsense on here and dished it right back at you and you can't take it. In fact, I think you are afraid of him and that makes me laugh. You lash out at me, but it's not me that is in this war, it's you and Gemini and he's not taking your crap anymore. I say good for him. Maybe this will serve as a wake up call for you.....nah, I doubt it. So you can keep going after me, but you need to deal with the real issue and it ain't me sister.
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Razenkn wrote: azsu wrote: Trophywife wrote: clarz007 wrote: HALT---STOP---Please get back to the subject matter on the forum! What's the point in having public issues to discuss if the forum members use the forum as a device for slamming each other and making ridiculous comments?
Clarz, it's a proven fact on this board that Raz does that to every single thread posted here whether it's about politics or popcorn. He did it with this thread and I'm sure if you go back to other threads you will see it. He cannot post a response to anyone without name calling. He got kicked off once and he needs to get kicked off again. No one can be attacked and just let it go, including me. This board is a joke.
It happens every time! Even after your friends deny that you do it.
Razenkn wrote: (today)
Geez Rosie's, did you make that appt to have them take that instrument out they left in your head yet??
and what makes it really obscene is he/she/it gets away with it
LOL...Geez atrophy, you don't need to scream, we can hear you...LOL
I guess I don't have to scream, you prove my point.
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azsu wrote: Trophywife wrote: clarz007 wrote: HALT---STOP---Please get back to the subject matter on the forum! What's the point in having public issues to discuss if the forum members use the forum as a device for slamming each other and making ridiculous comments?
Clarz, it's a proven fact on this board that Raz does that to every single thread posted here whether it's about politics or popcorn. He did it with this thread and I'm sure if you go back to other threads you will see it. He cannot post a response to anyone without name calling. He got kicked off once and he needs to get kicked off again. No one can be attacked and just let it go, including me. This board is a joke.
It happens every time! Even after your friends deny that you do it.
Razenkn wrote: (today)
Geez Rosie's, did you make that appt to have them take that instrument out they left in your head yet??
and what makes it really obscene is he/she/it gets away with it
LOL...Geez atrophy, you don't need to scream, we can hear you...LOL
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Trophywife wrote: clarz007 wrote: HALT---STOP---Please get back to the subject matter on the forum! What's the point in having public issues to discuss if the forum members use the forum as a device for slamming each other and making ridiculous comments?
Clarz, it's a proven fact on this board that Raz does that to every single thread posted here whether it's about politics or popcorn. He did it with this thread and I'm sure if you go back to other threads you will see it. He cannot post a response to anyone without name calling. He got kicked off once and he needs to get kicked off again. No one can be attacked and just let it go, including me. This board is a joke.
It happens every time! Even after your friends deny that you do it.
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Geez Rosie's, did you make that appt to have them take that instrument out they left in your head yet??
and what makes it really obscene is he/she/it gets away with it
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clarz007 wrote: HALT---STOP---Please get back to the subject matter on the forum! What's the point in having public issues to discuss if the forum members use the forum as a device for slamming each other and making ridiculous comments?
Clarz, it's a proven fact on this board that Raz does that to every single thread posted here whether it's about politics or popcorn. He did it with this thread and I'm sure if you go back to other threads you will see it. He cannot post a response to anyone without name calling. He got kicked off once and he needs to get kicked off again. No one can be attacked and just let it go, including me. This board is a joke.
It happens every time! Even after your friends deny that you do it.
Razenkn wrote: (today)
Geez Rosie's, did you make that appt to have them take that instrument out they left in your head yet??
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callmelou wrote: BigSurprize wrote: Michael Reagan is convinced his father would have supported the Tea Party grass roots movement...and Sarah Palin!
http://www.breitbart.tv/michael-reagan-counters-brothers-claims-about-dad-palin/
So he didn't think too much of dada.
Geez Rosie's, did you make that appt to have them take that instrument out they left in your head yet?? Why wouldn't President Reagan love Sarah Palin? She stands for all the very same things he does and she is just as unabashedly proud to be a Reagan Conservative as he was. She knows who she is and what she believes and what her principles are and never waivers from them.
Completely opposite of your luvbug. Remember how he and his VP Little Joey Biden both were vehemently against the surge in Iraq, Obama voted against funding our troops and said it wasn't going to work?? Little Joey said he thought the answer was to split Iraq into three Countries and everybody laughed at him for his stupidity?? Remember all that??
Well, this week Little Joey went on Larry King half alive and actually said "Iraq is going to be one of the greatest successes of this administration".....WTH???? Are you kidding me?? He and the Prez have been virtually MIA when it comes to Iraq since taking office. Do you ever hear them talking about it?? Or meeting with the leaders of Iraq?? There is a gigantic potentially explosive election coming up in March and the leader of the Free World is absent. It's imperative to our success this election go well and he doesn't even mention it. Wayyyy tooooo busy ridiculing Sarah Palin's palm notes.
So, this is the same pair who HATED everything our Military was doing in Iraq and now that all of President Bush's decisons have completely changed it around, they ignore it completely and now want to take some kind of phony windbag credit for its success. What happened to the "our military is raiding villiages and killing innocent citizens" in Iraq guy (Obama)??? That was his lowly opinion of our military just a few short months ago, yeah the very same guy who can't pronounce Corpsman.
Apparently this is the war they were against before they were the reason why it's a success....LOL
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When mentioning private entities can do a better job of providing health care and retirement? In the distant past I might agree but no longer. Ken Lay and his darling wife had an excellent retirement plan for themselves but one longtime employee at age 81 went to work for McDonalds. This is a more likely scenario for most people with today's companies and executives. Don't look for gov. to help either. It's fend for yourself or perish now. I see road warrior/ fighting in the streets in the future with executives hiding in armed gated communities and sending out for groceries and necessities when S.S. is gone. Mr. Potter from "It's a Wonderful Life" is now the norm. People Suck but now and again a decent sort shines through, very rare though.
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The Gov't does just wonderful things. That is liberal mania. The Gov't should control us, should confiscate our wealth and decide who gets it because WE THE PEOPLE are too stupid to know what is best for us. Since Rosie's brought up Haiti, let's use that as an example.
Does anyone have any real confidence that the $110 BILLION dollars our generous President "Corpse-man" declared to send to Haiti is actually going to go where it's supposed to? Now, before knowing any real facts on the ground, he just pulls this enormous figure out of a hat and pounds his compassionate chest saying lookie what I'M doing for Haiti. Nobody is going to oversee it. He already had his photo op, and has moved on.
This inexperienced administration and out of control liberal Congress passed $787 STIMULESS bill one year ago and they are absolutely CLUELESS as to where that money is going, so much so they were sending it to districts that didn't even exist. They were hunting for something to actually spend it on and one year later they haven't even spent half of it and it has made no difference in our economy except to place us deeper in the red ink pool.
So, my question is....who's looking out for us?? The gov't??? No. Once they get their greedy little hands on our tax money, kiss it goodbye. It goes straight down the rabbit hole of bribes, paybacks and to inflate gov't control. But the liberal juice drinkers clap their little hands in glee saying the gov't takes care of me because I have no brain of my own. What a bunch of misinformed and misguided chumps.
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Well, I was 10-18 during his presidency, so I guess politics wasn't prominent on my mind then. I didn't pay much attention to the way things were for Reagan and the government. I was asking for your input since I know for a fact YOU are old enough to remember the Reagan years since it was well into your adultood that he was president.
So you know nothing of what occured before your birth? You have no curiosity about historical matters? Good thing you didn't get into teaching.
Yeah, I told you already that I only heard and felt good things about him. I was surprised to see that people didn't like him because I knew he was so wildly popular. I guess an uber-Liberal like yourself would have a problem with someone NOT wanting more government, but I was just curious about what you had to say. I do have one question for you Lou--Are you EVER happy? You really do seem to be a snotty person. For someone whose party runs the White House, the house and the senate, you really do seem miserable. Maybe you should look into that.
I'm not sure what you mean by recalling Washington and Jefferson fondly. Have I even ever talked about them? Guess I was mistaken if you barely know who they were.
Nope, I do know who they were, but you said I recalled them fondly. I don't remember discussing them in here, but I guess you just can't let another opportunity to be nasty pass you by, can you?
You really think the government should be trusted? Based on what? How well they handle things? Name one thing they have handled well? They are the biggest bureaucracy possible and it's set up that way on purpose. They don't belong in almost everything they are involved with.
Well, I should have excluded the little bush years..of course, nothing was done right during that dark period..the gov't before then entered into and ended WW2..that was a good thing...the gov't created Soc. sec. and Medicare..those were good things...the gov't is assisting Haiti...you really have no idea of any good the gov't has done..ever? Perhaps you should read more and forum less.
Yeah, I disagree that FDR and all that he did was such a good thing. SS and Mcare and many other government programs are unnecessary and are not things the government belongs involved in. Private entities can provide health care and retirement benefits a whole lot more effectively than taxing people and redistributing it. Charging one generation to support another so that the other generation is forced to depend on the other is ridiculous. The program has been a generation behind since it started. How about this crazy idea...people provide their own comfort for their future by investing on their own instead of having the government "help".
As far as helping Haiti, private organizations can and have stepped up and contributed to Haiti relief efforts. You seem to forget that the American spirit is very generous and doesn't need the government's help. How do I know? FORMER Presidents Bush and Clinton, as private citizens, have set up the relief organization and are raising tons of money, as are churches and other charitable organizations everywhere. We don't NEED the govt's help.
Is it really necessary to call me a dolt? I never said anything one way or another about Bush and the war either. I'm not a huge Bush backer, so why don't you just lay off the insults for a while and make a point already? You really don't look attractive when being so nasty. You didn't "merely answer" my question. You found opportunities to be snide and b*tchy for no reason at all. When you are through throwing spears at me, I'd really like to have an intelligent exchange with you, if that's even possible. Do you think you are up for it?
Ahttp://www...man-up, girlfriend...I'm not nearly as aggressive on here as those I call dolts...
Well, since you have called me a dolt, I presume you think you are even more tame than I am. Perhaps you should rethink that one. I'm tough, just thinking that you might need professional help regarding your negative attitude. You have something to say about everything and can't even hold a civil conversation with someone whose views are different than yours even when one ATTEMPTS to be civil with you. You are really a hurtful person. If you are happy in your misery, that's your deal. I just think for someone who claims to be from the party of "tolerance" you really are intolerant. You may want to think about why you seem to be such a miserable person.
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Biggerthanabreadbox wrote: callmelou wrote: Biggerthanabreadbox wrote: callmelou wrote: Biggerthanabreadbox wrote: Lou - why do you think Reagan was a poor, divisive leader? And what do his acting chops have to do with anything as far as his politics goes?
Why do you think he was an effective President? He advocated mistrust of our government....he was anti-labor...good riddance to him...and if you don't think his acting came into play when he said, "tear down this wall", you probably would think Palin is a Phd.. At least he wasn't a no-tax prostitute....I think his dementia surfaced long before he was out of office.
I merely asked a simple question or two about your opinion. I never said one way or another what I thought about him. I know a lot of people did seem to like him a lot, but he was a little before my "political time", so I was wondering since you are old enough to remember him better than I am, I was wondering what you had to say since I've heard that Reagan was so very well respected.
The other view is rarely mentioned so I was a little intrigued. Why should people trust the government? When you talk anti labor, do you actually mean anti labor UNION, or anti worker? and did the wall get torn down and isn't that a good thing? I'm confused by what you say since you responded in blurbs.
You merely asked; I merely answered. I'm surprised you barely remember RR since I believe you have fondly recalled George Washington and Jefferson..well, they dooo say that the more recent memory is the first to go. If you really think the USSR tore down the wall because RR told them too, your general confusion is very understandable...Why should ppl trust their government? Why shouldn't they...You and the other dolts accepted the word of little bush that we needed to go to war with Iraq....you didn't question it...maybe RR should have encouraged us to question government on a PRN basis...but he was too much a black and white kinda guy, and not sufficiently smart enough to understand the difference...or, just as likely, his dementia had begun to to take control of him while he was still in office.
Well, I was 10-18 during his presidency, so I guess politics wasn't prominent on my mind then. I didn't pay much attention to the way things were for Reagan and the government. I was asking for your input since I know for a fact YOU are old enough to remember the Reagan years since it was well into your adultood that he was president.
So you know nothing of what occured before your birth? You have no curiosity about historical matters? Good thing you didn't get into teaching.
I'm not sure what you mean by recalling Washington and Jefferson fondly. Have I even ever talked about them? Guess I was mistaken if you barely know who they were.
You really think the government should be trusted? Based on what? How well they handle things? Name one thing they have handled well? They are the biggest bureaucracy possible and it's set up that way on purpose. They don't belong in almost everything they are involved with.
Well, I should have excluded the little bush years..of course, nothing was done right during that dark period..the gov't before then entered into and ended WW2..that was a good thing...the gov't created Soc. sec. and Medicare..those were good things...the gov't is assisting Haiti...you really have no idea of any good the gov't has done..ever? Perhaps you should read more and forum less.
Is it really necessary to call me a dolt? I never said anything one way or another about Bush and the war either. I'm not a huge Bush backer, so why don't you just lay off the insults for a while and make a point already? You really don't look attractive when being so nasty. You didn't "merely answer" my question. You found opportunities to be snide and b*tchy for no reason at all. When you are through throwing spears at me, I'd really like to have an intelligent exchange with you, if that's even possible. Do you think you are up for it?
Ahttp://www...man-up, girlfriend...I'm not nearly as aggressive on here as those I call dolts...
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callmelou wrote: Biggerthanabreadbox wrote: callmelou wrote: Biggerthanabreadbox wrote: Lou - why do you think Reagan was a poor, divisive leader? And what do his acting chops have to do with anything as far as his politics goes?
Why do you think he was an effective President? He advocated mistrust of our government....he was anti-labor...good riddance to him...and if you don't think his acting came into play when he said, "tear down this wall", you probably would think Palin is a Phd.. At least he wasn't a no-tax prostitute....I think his dementia surfaced long before he was out of office.
I merely asked a simple question or two about your opinion. I never said one way or another what I thought about him. I know a lot of people did seem to like him a lot, but he was a little before my "political time", so I was wondering since you are old enough to remember him better than I am, I was wondering what you had to say since I've heard that Reagan was so very well respected.
The other view is rarely mentioned so I was a little intrigued. Why should people trust the government? When you talk anti labor, do you actually mean anti labor UNION, or anti worker? and did the wall get torn down and isn't that a good thing? I'm confused by what you say since you responded in blurbs.
You merely asked; I merely answered. I'm surprised you barely remember RR since I believe you have fondly recalled George Washington and Jefferson..well, they dooo say that the more recent memory is the first to go. If you really think the USSR tore down the wall because RR told them too, your general confusion is very understandable...Why should ppl trust their government? Why shouldn't they...You and the other dolts accepted the word of little bush that we needed to go to war with Iraq....you didn't question it...maybe RR should have encouraged us to question government on a PRN basis...but he was too much a black and white kinda guy, and not sufficiently smart enough to understand the difference...or, just as likely, his dementia had begun to to take control of him while he was still in office.
Well, I was 10-18 during his presidency, so I guess politics wasn't prominent on my mind then. I didn't pay much attention to the way things were for Reagan and the government. I was asking for your input since I know for a fact YOU are old enough to remember the Reagan years since it was well into your adultood that he was president.
I'm not sure what you mean by recalling Washington and Jefferson fondly. Have I even ever talked about them?
You really think the government should be trusted? Based on what? How well they handle things? Name one thing they have handled well? They are the biggest bureaucracy possible and it's set up that way on purpose. They don't belong in almost everything they are involved with.
Is it really necessary to call me a dolt? I never said anything one way or another about Bush and the war either. I'm not a huge Bush backer, so why don't you just lay off the insults for a while and make a point already? You really don't look attractive when being so nasty. You didn't "merely answer" my question. You found opportunities to be snide and b*tchy for no reason at all. When you are through throwing spears at me, I'd really like to have an intelligent exchange with you, if that's even possible. Do you think you are up for it?
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Biggerthanabreadbox wrote: callmelou wrote: Biggerthanabreadbox wrote: Lou - why do you think Reagan was a poor, divisive leader? And what do his acting chops have to do with anything as far as his politics goes?
Why do you think he was an effective President? He advocated mistrust of our government....he was anti-labor...good riddance to him...and if you don't think his acting came into play when he said, "tear down this wall", you probably would think Palin is a Phd.. At least he wasn't a no-tax prostitute....I think his dementia surfaced long before he was out of office.
I merely asked a simple question or two about your opinion. I never said one way or another what I thought about him. I know a lot of people did seem to like him a lot, but he was a little before my "political time", so I was wondering since you are old enough to remember him better than I am, I was wondering what you had to say since I've heard that Reagan was so very well respected.
The other view is rarely mentioned so I was a little intrigued. Why should people trust the government? When you talk anti labor, do you actually mean anti labor UNION, or anti worker? and did the wall get torn down and isn't that a good thing? I'm confused by what you say since you responded in blurbs.
You merely asked; I merely answered. I'm surprised you barely remember RR since I believe you have fondly recalled George Washington and Jefferson..well, they dooo say that the more recent memory is the first to go. If you really think the USSR tore down the wall because RR told them too, your general confusion is very understandable...Why should ppl trust their government? Why shouldn't they...You and the other dolts accepted the word of little bush that we needed to go to war with Iraq....you didn't question it...maybe RR should have encouraged us to question government on a PRN basis...but he was too much a black and white kinda guy, and not sufficiently smart enough to understand the difference...or, just as likely, his dementia had begun to to take control of him while he was still in office.
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clarz007 wrote: Let's look at Mr. Reagan realistically. He was a dyslexic, community college graduate and B-List actor. He was a nominal governor of a very rich state. He had some common sense and was a typical WASP.
He was loved by the average dolt who had no grasp of reality. Reaganomics was a resounding failure. If you want an idea of what Reagonomics looked like and led to, all you have to do is look at the Savings and Loans scandal of that era, the rising poverty during his reign and the huge unemployment numbers and compare and contrast it with the current domestic climate.
He was perfect for a country which relies on the superficial versus the deep. A country which for decades had been replete with calculated unfairness and narrow-mindedness as well as a lack of worldliness. A country that thought it was exclusive and not a part of the global community or even that all of its own citizens are equal; one which believed it was a privileged character and used selfishness and elitism as it's creed.
He was an actor who could have/should have been impeached for the Iran-Contra Affair, but his connections were much too powerful to allow that to happen. Just as we saw with the Bush's, especially "W."
The hostages were released the DAY AFTER his inauguration. It was not a coincidence or based on any "fear factor". It was based on an arms for hostage deal brokered by "his people". Anyone who understands history, the rule of evidence and simple deductive reasoning KNOWS this.
Reagan was a below-average president. His ascendance to the throne led to the emergence of crack (as a consequence of the Iran-Contra Affair), widespread gang-banging as a means to distribute the cheap form of cocaine to the poor Black and Latino urban population (eventually to our suburbs), the unchecked machinations of private industry, the emergence of HIV/AIDS which he did little to prevent the spread of, a corrupt line of politicians remade in his image (which includes Bill Clinton) and an anemic economy.
He did bring pride back to our military and continued with top secret programs first started by Carter.
Those who disrespect Jimmy Carter are ignorant and biased. He had very little to no support from the Washington elite on passing important legislation. Many in the country wanted him to fail, just based on the fact that he was a "bleeding heart liberal". His downfall began with the huge economic problems inherited from Nixon and Ford, mostly as a result of our involvement in S.E. Asia. An example was the oil shortage which led to huge gas lines and decreased public confidence in our government. He did broker the Camp David Accord and tried to rescue the hostages with an interservice attempt, but the military strategists were pitiful and an untimely sandstorm caused the aircraft to crash into one another. He didn't plan squat, so how was it his fault?
So to put it bluntly, history defines Reagan as a very overrated and manipulated president. Big on charisma and small on brains.
LOL...thanks for the laugh clarz. Ho humm, all republicans are stupid, yadda, yadda, yadda. Geez, you people need to get some new material. Yeah, JC was soooo popular, he wanted to be a ONE TERM GREAT just like our current Prez does. LOL Nice liberal copy/paste smear though of a true American hero. America loves President Reagan. JC nearly destroyed our Country with his weakness and his liberalism. Sound familiar??
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Let's look at Mr. Reagan realistically. He was a dyslexic, community college graduate and B-List actor. He was a nominal governor of a very rich state. He had some common sense and was a typical WASP.
He was loved by the average dolt who had no grasp of reality. Reaganomics was a resounding failure. If you want an idea of what Reagonomics looked like and led to, all you have to do is look at the Savings and Loans scandal of that era, the rising poverty during his reign and the huge unemployment numbers and compare and contrast it with the current domestic climate.
He was perfect for a country which relies on the superficial versus the deep. A country which for decades had been replete with calculated unfairness and narrow-mindedness as well as a lack of worldliness. A country that thought it was exclusive and not a part of the global community or even that all of its own citizens are equal; one which believed it was a privileged character and used selfishness and elitism as it's creed.
He was an actor who could have/should have been impeached for the Iran-Contra Affair, but his connections were much too powerful to allow that to happen. Just as we saw with the Bush's, especially "W."
The hostages were released the DAY AFTER his inauguration. It was not a coincidence or based on any "fear factor". It was based on an arms for hostage deal brokered by "his people". Anyone who understands history, the rule of evidence and simple deductive reasoning KNOWS this.
Reagan was a below-average president. His ascendance to the throne led to the emergence of crack (as a consequence of the Iran-Contra Affair), widespread gang-banging as a means to distribute the cheap form of cocaine to the poor Black and Latino urban population (eventually to our suburbs), the unchecked machinations of private industry, the emergence of HIV/AIDS which he did little to prevent the spread of, a corrupt line of politicians remade in his image (which includes Bill Clinton) and an anemic economy.
He did bring pride back to our military and continued with top secret programs first started by Carter.
Those who disrespect Jimmy Carter are ignorant and biased. He had very little to no support from the Washington elite on passing important legislation. Many in the country wanted him to fail, just based on the fact that he was a "bleeding heart liberal". His downfall began with the huge economic problems inherited from Nixon and Ford, mostly as a result of our involvement in S.E. Asia. An example was the oil shortage which led to huge gas lines and decreased public confidence in our government. He did broker the Camp David Accord and tried to rescue the hostages with an interservice attempt, but the military strategists were pitiful and an untimely sandstorm caused the aircraft to crash into one another. He didn't plan squat, so how was it his fault?
So to put it bluntly, history defines Reagan as a very overrated and manipulated president. Big on charisma and small on brains.
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callmelou wrote: Biggerthanabreadbox wrote: Lou - why do you think Reagan was a poor, divisive leader? And what do his acting chops have to do with anything as far as his politics goes?
Why do you think he was an effective President? He advocated mistrust of our government....he was anti-labor...good riddance to him...and if you don't think his acting came into play when he said, "tear down this wall", you probably would think Palin is a Phd.. At least he wasn't a no-tax prostitute....I think his dementia surfaced long before he was out of office.
I merely asked a simple question or two about your opinion. I never said one way or another what I thought about him. I know a lot of people did seem to like him a lot, but he was a little before my "political time", so I was wondering since you are old enough to remember him better than I am, I was wondering what you had to say since I've heard that Reagan was so very well respected.
The other view is rarely mentioned so I was a little intrigued. Why should people trust the government? When you talk anti labor, do you actually mean anti labor UNION, or anti worker? and did the wall get torn down and isn't that a good thing? I'm confused by what you say since you responded in blurbs.
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Razenkn wrote: callmelou wrote: Biggerthanabreadbox wrote: Lou - why do you think Reagan was a poor, divisive leader? And what do his acting chops have to do with anything as far as his politics goes?
Why do you think he was an effective President? He advocated mistrust of our government....he was anti-labor...good riddance to him...and if you don't think his acting came into play when he said, "tear down this wall", you probably would think Palin is a Phd.. At least he wasn't a no-tax prostitute....I think his dementia surfaced long before he was out of office.
Is that what your brain surgery was for....dementia??? Or were they just checking to see if you had one???
What brain surgery? You perhaps have the dementia issue RR had...so sad...... Last edited on Mon Feb 8th, 2010 05:07 am by callmelou
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callmelou wrote: Biggerthanabreadbox wrote: Lou - why do you think Reagan was a poor, divisive leader? And what do his acting chops have to do with anything as far as his politics goes?
Why do you think he was an effective President? He advocated mistrust of our government....he was anti-labor...good riddance to him...and if you don't think his acting came into play when he said, "tear down this wall", you probably would think Palin is a Phd.. At least he wasn't a no-tax prostitute....I think his dementia surfaced long before he was out of office.
Is that what your brain surgery was for....dementia??? Or were they just checking to see if you had one???
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Biggerthanabreadbox wrote: Lou - why do you think Reagan was a poor, divisive leader? And what do his acting chops have to do with anything as far as his politics goes?
Why do you think he was an effective President? He advocated mistrust of our government....he was anti-labor...good riddance to him...and if you don't think his acting came into play when he said, "tear down this wall", you probably would think Palin is a Phd.. At least he wasn't a no-tax prostitute....I think his dementia surfaced long before he was out of office.
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Rosie's hates anything republican. She doesn't know why, she just hates. She is terribly misguided about President Reagen, history has proved him to be one of the best modern time Presidents to date and Jimmy Carter to be the worst. She hates that because the good guy was republican and the bad guy is a rabid liberal, much like her. Facts are facts.
I'm interested in knowing what the left objects about moving to the right. What happens to our Country when our Gov't moves to the right?? Keeping in mind we are a Center-Right Nation. What is so objectionable about that?? Do we lose our freedom?? Does Gov't take over private enterprise?? Does the Nation go into abject poverty and have to be fed and housed by the Gov't?? Does the Gov't interfere in our day to day decisions on what we eat, what we wear, what we drive, what schools we can go to, what color our roofs should be, what type of lightbulb to use, what medical services we deserve, how much money we should be able to earn....any of those things happen if we go too far to the right??
I know this is all a little deep for you Rosie's, but help me out here because I don't understand what the downside is to moving right. 
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Lou - why do you think Reagan was a poor, divisive leader? And what do his acting chops have to do with anything as far as his politics goes?
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Gemini wrote: designman124 wrote:
MISS THIS GUY YET?
"Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it." -Ronald Reagan
'Here's my strategy on the Cold War:
We win, they lose.'
- Ronald Reagan
'The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'-Ronald Reagan
'The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.'
-Ronald Reagan
'Of the four wars in my lifetime, none came about because the U.S. was too strong.'- Ronald Reagan
'I have wondered at times about what the Ten Commandments would have looked like if Moses had run them through the U.S. Congress..' -Ronald Reagan
'The taxpayer: That's someone who works for the federal government but doesn't have to take the civil service examination.'- Ronald Reagan
'Government is like a baby: An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no sense of responsibility at the other'- Ronald Reagan
'The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a government program.' - Ronald Reagan
'It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first'- Ronald Reagan
'Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it'
- Ronald Reagan
'Politics is not a bad profession. If you succeed, there are many rewards; if you disgrace yourself, you can always write a book.'- Ronald Reagan
'No arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is as formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women.'- Ronald Reagan
'If we ever forget that we're one nation under GOD, then we will be a nation gone under.'-Ronald Reagan
More than you can imagine!
He was a poor, devisive president and an even worse actor.Last edited on Sun Feb 7th, 2010 06:15 am by callmelou
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sRazenkn wrote: Art Vandelay wrote: I cast my first vote for President for RR. I voted for him because like many of my friends we could not see how 4 more years of Jimmy Carter could improve things, especially the Iran Crisis. Did I like Reagan completely? Heck no. Would I vote for him again if I had to do it over? most likely. I did not vote for him in 1984 because I saw things moving too far to the right for my taste. If it had not been for people like me... The Ronald Reagan Democrats, he never would have been elected and Reagan knew this. Just like Barry Goldwater always acknowledged the democrats in thi state that respected him and sent him to both Congress and the Senate.
Ok, I semi- like what you are saying but not understanding some of it. TOO FAR TO THE RIGHT...what exactly does that mean? We hear on a regular basis about those EVVVILLLLLLL far right extremists on here but nobody is willing to define what that means exactly. Now you are saying "he moved too far to the right" well, in what way???
Just to be clear, there were NO Ronald Reagan DEMOCRATS. He moved DEMOCRATS into the Republican party much like the TEA PARTY movement is doing today. It's all about SMALLER GOV'T, lower taxes, stronger National Security, NO GOV'T takeover of HEALTHCARE...things like that.
The Conservative right did not move left, or become MORE liberal, they hung tight with their conseravtive principles...DUH.....
The Tea Party is moving Democrats to the Republican party???? How about the Tea Party is moving moderate Republicans to the Democrats. Someone here is delusional...someone with tea bags hanging from his ears. So, Art: where do you stand now? Come back if you left us, hon...unlike the Republicans, we have room for a range of perspectives.
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Art Vandelay wrote: I cast my first vote for President for RR. I voted for him because like many of my friends we could not see how 4 more years of Jimmy Carter could improve things, especially the Iran Crisis. Did I like Reagan completely? Heck no. Would I vote for him again if I had to do it over? most likely. I did not vote for him in 1984 because I saw things moving too far to the right for my taste. If it had not been for people like me... The Ronald Reagan Democrats, he never would have been elected and Reagan knew this. Just like Barry Goldwater always acknowledged the democrats in thi state that respected him and sent him to both Congress and the Senate.
Ok, I semi- like what you are saying but not understanding some of it. TOO FAR TO THE RIGHT...what exactly does that mean? We hear on a regular basis about those EVVVILLLLLLL far right extremists on here but nobody is willing to define what that means exactly. Now you are saying "he moved too far to the right" well, in what way???
Just to be clear, there were NO Ronald Reagan DEMOCRATS. He moved DEMOCRATS into the Republican party much like the TEA PARTY movement is doing today. It's all about SMALLER GOV'T, lower taxes, stronger National Security, NO GOV'T takeover of HEALTHCARE...things like that.
The Conservative right did not move left, or become MORE liberal, they hung tight with their conseravtive principles...DUH.....
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designman124 wrote:
MISS THIS GUY YET?
"Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it." -Ronald Reagan
'Here's my strategy on the Cold War:
We win, they lose.'
- Ronald Reagan
'The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'-Ronald Reagan
'The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.'
-Ronald Reagan
'Of the four wars in my lifetime, none came about because the U.S. was too strong.'- Ronald Reagan
'I have wondered at times about what the Ten Commandments would have looked like if Moses had run them through the U.S. Congress..' -Ronald Reagan
'The taxpayer: That's someone who works for the federal government but doesn't have to take the civil service examination.'- Ronald Reagan
'Government is like a baby: An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no sense of responsibility at the other'- Ronald Reagan
'The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a government program.' - Ronald Reagan
'It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first'- Ronald Reagan
'Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it'
- Ronald Reagan
'Politics is not a bad profession. If you succeed, there are many rewards; if you disgrace yourself, you can always write a book.'- Ronald Reagan
'No arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is as formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women.'- Ronald Reagan
'If we ever forget that we're one nation under GOD, then we will be a nation gone under.'-Ronald Reagan
More than you can imagine!
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I cast my first vote for President for RR. I voted for him because like many of my friends we could not see how 4 more years of Jimmy Carter could improve things, especially the Iran Crisis. Did I like Reagan completely? Heck no. Would I vote for him again if I had to do it over? most likely. I did not vote for him in 1984 because I saw things moving too far to the right for my taste. If it had not been for people like me... The Ronald Reagan Democrats, he never would have been elected and Reagan knew this. Just like Barry Goldwater always acknowledged the democrats in thi state that respected him and sent him to both Congress and the Senate.
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MISS THIS GUY YET?
"Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell where they already have it." -Ronald Reagan
'Here's my strategy on the Cold War:
We win, they lose.'
- Ronald Reagan
'The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'-Ronald Reagan
'The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.'
-Ronald Reagan
'Of the four wars in my lifetime, none came about because the U.S. was too strong.'- Ronald Reagan
'I have wondered at times about what the Ten Commandments would have looked like if Moses had run them through the U.S. Congress..' -Ronald Reagan
'The taxpayer: That's someone who works for the federal government but doesn't have to take the civil service examination.'- Ronald Reagan
'Government is like a baby: An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no sense of responsibility at the other'- Ronald Reagan
'The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a government program.' - Ronald Reagan
'It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first'- Ronald Reagan
'Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it'
- Ronald Reagan
'Politics is not a bad profession. If you succeed, there are many rewards; if you disgrace yourself, you can always write a book.'- Ronald Reagan
'No arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is as formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women.'- Ronald Reagan
'If we ever forget that we're one nation under GOD, then we will be a nation gone under.'-Ronald Reagan
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designman124 wrote: His Legacy
Michael Reagan on Ronald Reagan: 'His Legacy is Freedom'
Friday, February 5, 2010 03:25 PM
By: Jim Meyers
Saturday is Ronald Reagan’s birthday, and his son Michael Reagan tells Newsmax that the legacy of America’s 40th president can be summed up in one word: freedom.
But Reagan criticized the current president, Barack Obama, for “apologizing” for America instead of “uplifting” the nation as President Reagan had.
Michael Reagan is the host of a nationally syndicated radio show, a Newsmax columnist, and head of the Reagan Legacy Foundation.
He said he’d mark his father’s birthday first by speaking Friday night at Eureka College in Illinois, where his father graduated with an economics degree.
“Wouldn’t you like everyone who serves as president of the United States to have an economics degree?” Reagan said wryly.
He also scheduled Saturday visits to Tampico, Ill., where his father was born, and Dixon, Ill. where he went to high school, before attending a dinner in Chicago with the Reagan Legacy Foundation.
Happy Birthday President Reagan.....
Who will be our next Ronald Wilson Reagan????
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His Lregacy
Michael Reagan on Ronald Reagan: 'His Legacy is Freedom'
Friday, February 5, 2010 03:25 PM
By: Jim Meyers
Saturday is Ronald Reagan’s birthday, and his son Michael Reagan tells Newsmax that the legacy of America’s 40th president can be summed up in one word: freedom.
But Reagan criticized the current president, Barack Obama, for “apologizing” for America instead of “uplifting” the nation as President Reagan had.
Michael Reagan is the host of a nationally syndicated radio show, a Newsmax columnist, and head of the Reagan Legacy Foundation.
He said he’d mark his father’s birthday first by speaking Friday night at Eureka College in Illinois, where his father graduated with an economics degree.
“Wouldn’t you like everyone who serves as president of the United States to have an economics degree?” Reagan said wryly.
He also scheduled Saturday visits to Tampico, Ill., where his father was born, and Dixon, Ill. where he went to high school, before attending a dinner in Chicago with the Reagan Legacy Foundation.
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