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| Posted: Thu Jul 1st, 2010 10:09 pm |
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SometimesRational Member
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Slartibartfast wrote: What if she had said that Arizona was a "Borderline State?" She didn't. She said Arizona doesn't border Mexico. She wants to boycott us because, well, because she's an idiot first of all, but because she doesn't think we should be the first ones to create a law like this. I guess she likes Texas better. BTW, did you know that Texas is where the term "wetback" comes from? It's true. They gave them that name because Mexicans would cross the Rio Grande illegally into Texas. Peggy West probably thinks it's ok to use that term in Texas...just not in Arizona.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 1st, 2010 04:32 pm |
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Slartibartfast Member
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What if she had said that Arizona was a "Borderline State?"
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| Posted: Thu Jul 1st, 2010 03:34 pm |
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Mc Fly Member
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What Me Kidding wrote: This was pretty funny........ Golly...she's about as stupid as a screen door on a submarine.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30th, 2010 11:56 pm |
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doggielover Member
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Last edited on Thu Jul 1st, 2010 10:21 am by doggielover |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30th, 2010 11:50 pm |
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Uncle Ub from Unsworth Member
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b_goodman wrote: doggielover wrote:She said AZ didn't have a border with Mexico , not that AZ had the second largest border with Mexico. Give her a cupcake. Don't worry, Goodman, I read your post unlike some people. And you are right, Peggy West doesn't even understand what she is talking about. She's just following orders from the liberal corner.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30th, 2010 11:34 pm |
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doggielover Member
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You are very naive. Maybe that's a good thing. She gets a cupcake.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30th, 2010 11:31 pm |
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b_goodman Member
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doggielover wrote: She said AZ didn't have a border with Mexico , not that AZ had the second largest border with Mexico. Give her a cupcake. I said, AFTER the meeting. This is what she said to reporters: "Had Texas come out with the legislation, having the largest border, I think that I would be more receptive to the fact that there was a problem. But having it be Arizona, having it be the second largest boarder and knowing there are troops on the border in Arizona, it didn't seem to me that this legislation was particularly necessary at this moment in time," West said." So she gets NO cupcake. Most communities boycott us because they think the law will lead to profiling. SHE wants to boycott because she doesn't think "that this legislation was particularly necessary at this moment in time." She clearly has no understanding of which she speaks. Last edited on Wed Jun 30th, 2010 11:36 pm by b_goodman |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30th, 2010 11:23 pm |
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doggielover Member
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She said AZ didn't have a border with Mexico , not that AZ had the second largest border with Mexico. Give her a cupcake.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30th, 2010 11:13 pm |
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b_goodman Member
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What Me Kidding wrote: This was pretty funny........ She said after the meeting that what she meant to say was Texas has the biggest boarder and she could understand if they had a problem with immigration. But with AZ just being the second largest border, then we shouldn't have a law like this. In other words, she thinks we should be boycotted because somebody else should have come up with the law first??? If she thought it would lead to profiling, then I'd give her a little slack. I'd still ask her to read the law first. But that was not the case.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30th, 2010 02:42 pm |
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rdg7359 Member
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With the upcoming lawsuit brought by our own Department of Justice as it pertains to the Employer Sanctions Law, are they not suing themselves? "The Justice Department files a lawsuit against Arizona’s immigration law" http://americaswatchtower.com/2010/05/30/the-justice-department-files-a-lawsuit-against-arizonas-immigration-law/ E-Verify was implemented in 1996 under the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act (IIRIRA). E-Verify is administered by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security. http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=a16988e60a405110VgnVCM1000004718190aRCRD&vgnextchannel=a16988e60a405110VgnVCM1000004718190aRCRD Participation in E-Verify is voluntary for most businesses, but if a business chooses to use it or a state requires a business to use they are now subject to a lawsuit? Another great example of our hard working Government in action!
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30th, 2010 02:20 pm |
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doggielover Member
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Oh, yes. Sure, she "misspoke". What Me Kidding wrote:
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| Posted: Tue Jun 29th, 2010 12:41 am |
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What Me Kidding Member
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This was pretty funny........ Milwaukee County Supervisor Peggy West stumbled a bit Thursday in throwing her support for a county boycott of doing business with Arizona when she said Arizona wasn’t a state that bordered Mexico. The gaffe was captured on camera by Todays TMJ4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_RSr3VDAfE "If this was Texas, which is a state that is directly on the border with Mexico, and they were calling for a measure like this saying that they had a major issue with undocumented people flooding their borders, I would have to look twice at this. But this is a state that is a ways removed from the border," West said. The trip-up was quickly caught by fellow Supervisor Joe Rice. "I just want to assure my colleague that Arizona is a state that does in fact share a border with Mexico," Rice said. West said later she misspoke. Action on the boycott was delayed.
Peggy West was elected 12th District Supervisor in 2004 and is serving her first term on the Milwaukee County Board of Supervisors representing the 50,000 residents on Milwaukee’s south side. Supervisor West has the unique distinction of being the first Latino/Hispanic American to be elected to the Milwaukee County Board.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 28th, 2010 09:38 pm |
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Coffeecup Member
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Slartibartfast, An eye opener picture of Pearce with J T Ready… I’m disappointed in his National Socialist Movement (NSM) association. However, as noted before, idiots come in all colors and flavors. This Neo-Nazi, white supremacist flavor is particularly odorous and needs to be opposed wherever found. In 2009 the 35th anniversary of the NSM in St Louis had about 85 attendees out of a population of about three million. I’m not really concerned about a very, very small fringe group of idiots that wear swastikas on their arms. Several GOP Congressmen want J T Ready out of the GOP. I found Pearce’s bio on Wikipedia and noted the policies he advocates, policies that I also support. Policies of smaller government, family values and adherence to all of the Constitution not just those parts that are agreeable to you or I.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 28th, 2010 04:26 pm |
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Slartibartfast Member
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Oh by the way, here's another news photo of J.T. Ready with some of his friends... he's the second from the right. Attachment: ready.jpg (Downloaded 143 times) Last edited on Mon Jun 28th, 2010 04:26 pm by Slartibartfast |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 28th, 2010 04:23 pm |
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Slartibartfast Member
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Coffeecup: Here's a news photo of Senator Russel Pearce obviously enjoying the company of white supremacist J.T. Ready while wearing his "Flag Shirt". Thought you might like to see it. Attachment: Pearce.jpg (Downloaded 145 times)
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| Posted: Mon Jun 28th, 2010 01:06 am |
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TyrannyOfEvil Member
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Understanding SB 1070 WASHINGTON (April 29, 2010) – The new law recently signed by the governor of Arizona, SB 1070, makes it a crime to violate some federal immigration statutes. While the law is extremely popular in the state, with 70 percent of Arizona voters approving of it and just 23 percent opposed, it has raised controversy. Below is a brief summary of the relevant information on illegal immigration in Arizona, followed by a short analysis of SB 1070’s major provisions. Illegal immigration in Arizona:
http://www.cis.org/Announcement/AZ-Immigration-SB1070 Last edited on Mon Jun 28th, 2010 01:07 am by TyrannyOfEvil |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 28th, 2010 12:46 am |
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Coffeecup Member
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cheerleaderforclosers, State Senator Pearce advocates for smaller and more efficient government, eliminating abuse of eminent domain, tightening border security, a vocal supporter of the Second Amendment in the context of the US gun rights debate, asserting the notion of the US as God's republic (in contrast to the US as a secular democracy), supporting private property rights, improving education and restoring discipline, supporting the Boy Scouts of America in their moral leadership goals, supporting traditional family values, promoting pro-life views, supporting the Taxpayer Bill of Rights, against judicial activism and improving transportation, including freeways. Where’s his racism? Pearce has also fought for restricting illegal immigration into the United States. Could this be the basis for your racist claim? He drafted Proposition 200, popularly known as Protect Arizona Now, intended to stop voting fraud and welfare fraud by illegal aliens. Perhaps you are in favor of voter and welfare fraud by illegal aliens? YOUR racist comment identifies you as nothing more than another race-card playing liberal that needs a reality check. Your "clearly" characterization of “Joe” and “Brewer” indicates you need to see an optometrist!
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| Posted: Mon Jun 28th, 2010 12:45 am |
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No_mood Member
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cheerleaderforclosers wrote: Arizona is now known for three politicians: Sheriff Joe creates 7 job openings - http://www.kpho.com/news/24039074/detail.html Viva Sheriff Joe, a great American! Attachment: 455530479v9_150x150_Front.jpg (Downloaded 143 times)
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| Posted: Sun Jun 27th, 2010 11:50 pm |
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Uncle Ub from Unsworth Member
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TyrannyOfEvil wrote: Keeping the immigration issue on a local level, this is exactly why Arizona needs a bill like SB 1070. If Washington will not enforce their own laws, then it is up our state to enforce them.
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| Posted: Sun Jun 27th, 2010 11:36 pm |
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cheerleaderforclosers Member
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Arizona is now known for three politicians: Russell Pearce - clearly a racist Joe - clearly a senile old man Brewer - clearly an idiot Makes me proud!!!
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| Posted: Sun Jun 27th, 2010 10:19 pm |
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TyrannyOfEvil Member
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Keeping the immigration issue on a local level, this is exactly why Arizona needs a bill like SB 1070. If Washington will not enforce their own laws, then it is up our state to enforce them. Keep in mind that the dollar amounts and figures below are from 2004. The Costs of Illegal Immigration to Arizonans: Analysis of the latest Census data indicates that Arizona’s illegal immigrant population is costing the state’s taxpayers about $1.3 billion per year for education, medical care and incarceration. Even if the estimated tax contributions of illegal immigrant workers are subtracted, net outlays still amount to about $1.3 billion per year. The annual fiscal burden borne by Arizonans amounts to more than $700 per household headed by a native-born resident. As this report will note, other significant costs associated with illegal immigration exist and should be taken into account by federal and state officials. But even without accounting for all of the multitude of areas in which costs are being incurred by Arizona taxpayers, the programs analyzed in this study indicate that the burden is substantial and that the costs are rapidly increasing. The $1.3 billion in costs incurred by Arizona taxpayers is comprised of outlays in the following areas:
The fiscal costs of illegal immigration do not end with these three major cost items. The total costs of illegal immigration to the state’s taxpayers would be considerably higher if other costs such as special English instruction, school nutrition programs, or welfare benefits for American workers displaced by illegal alien workers were added into the equation. http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecenters5e3f http://www.fairus.org/site/DocServer/azcosts2.pdf?docID=101
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